#23714: "game allowed me to break communication rules"
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细节描述
• 如果有的话,请将你在屏幕上所看到的错误信息粘贴出来.
the crew manual page 6
If you want to communicate, take one of your color cards
and put it face up in front of you so everyone can see it. This
card remains part of your set of cards, so it can be played in
the normal way. The only difference is that every other crew
member now knows you have this card as well. Then place
your radio communication token with the green side up on
the card to give your crew members even more information:
> At the top, if it is your highest card of this color.
> In the middle, if it is your only card of this color.
> At the bottom, if it is your lowest card of this color.
---
The bga adaption let me put the token at the top of pink five even though it was my only pink card so I should have placed it in the middle.
It could be fixed by implementing this suggestion boardgamearena.com/bug?id=22931• 请说明你当时想做什么,你做了什么,然后发生了什么
Move 12 :11:22:02 AM
jade_alarm tells 53 is its highest card of this color• 你的浏览器是什么?
Mozilla v5
• 请以英文复制/粘贴显示文字而非你的语言。 如果你有这个系统漏洞发生时的屏幕截图(画质不要太差),你可以使用Imgur.com来把它上传到网络,然后将链接复制/粘贴到这里来。
the crew manual page 6
If you want to communicate, take one of your color cards
and put it face up in front of you so everyone can see it. This
card remains part of your set of cards, so it can be played in
the normal way. The only difference is that every other crew
member now knows you have this card as well. Then place
your radio communication token with the green side up on
the card to give your crew members even more information:
> At the top, if it is your highest card of this color.
> In the middle, if it is your only card of this color.
> At the bottom, if it is your lowest card of this color.
---
The bga adaption let me put the token at the top of pink five even though it was my only pink card so I should have placed it in the middle.
It could be fixed by implementing this suggestion boardgamearena.com/bug?id=22931• 这段文本在翻译系统中吗?如果存在,它被翻译是否已超过二十四小时了?
Move 12 :11:22:02 AM
jade_alarm tells 53 is its highest card of this color• 你的浏览器是什么?
Mozilla v5
• 请简明而精确地解释您的建议,以便让人明白您想表达的意思。
the crew manual page 6
If you want to communicate, take one of your color cards
and put it face up in front of you so everyone can see it. This
card remains part of your set of cards, so it can be played in
the normal way. The only difference is that every other crew
member now knows you have this card as well. Then place
your radio communication token with the green side up on
the card to give your crew members even more information:
> At the top, if it is your highest card of this color.
> In the middle, if it is your only card of this color.
> At the bottom, if it is your lowest card of this color.
---
The bga adaption let me put the token at the top of pink five even though it was my only pink card so I should have placed it in the middle.
It could be fixed by implementing this suggestion boardgamearena.com/bug?id=22931• 你的浏览器是什么?
Mozilla v5
• 当你被封锁的时候,屏幕上出现了些什么呢?(空白的屏幕?部分游戏平台画面?错误的信息?)
the crew manual page 6
If you want to communicate, take one of your color cards
and put it face up in front of you so everyone can see it. This
card remains part of your set of cards, so it can be played in
the normal way. The only difference is that every other crew
member now knows you have this card as well. Then place
your radio communication token with the green side up on
the card to give your crew members even more information:
> At the top, if it is your highest card of this color.
> In the middle, if it is your only card of this color.
> At the bottom, if it is your lowest card of this color.
---
The bga adaption let me put the token at the top of pink five even though it was my only pink card so I should have placed it in the middle.
It could be fixed by implementing this suggestion boardgamearena.com/bug?id=22931• 你的浏览器是什么?
Mozilla v5
• 哪个规则没有被BGA的设计小组写进游戏里?
the crew manual page 6
If you want to communicate, take one of your color cards
and put it face up in front of you so everyone can see it. This
card remains part of your set of cards, so it can be played in
the normal way. The only difference is that every other crew
member now knows you have this card as well. Then place
your radio communication token with the green side up on
the card to give your crew members even more information:
> At the top, if it is your highest card of this color.
> In the middle, if it is your only card of this color.
> At the bottom, if it is your lowest card of this color.
---
The bga adaption let me put the token at the top of pink five even though it was my only pink card so I should have placed it in the middle.
It could be fixed by implementing this suggestion boardgamearena.com/bug?id=22931• 在游戏回放中,是否有不符合游戏规则的地方?如果有的话,请问是在哪一步呢?
Move 12 :11:22:02 AM
jade_alarm tells 53 is its highest card of this color• 你的浏览器是什么?
Mozilla v5
• 你当时是想做哪个游戏行动?
the crew manual page 6
If you want to communicate, take one of your color cards
and put it face up in front of you so everyone can see it. This
card remains part of your set of cards, so it can be played in
the normal way. The only difference is that every other crew
member now knows you have this card as well. Then place
your radio communication token with the green side up on
the card to give your crew members even more information:
> At the top, if it is your highest card of this color.
> In the middle, if it is your only card of this color.
> At the bottom, if it is your lowest card of this color.
---
The bga adaption let me put the token at the top of pink five even though it was my only pink card so I should have placed it in the middle.
It could be fixed by implementing this suggestion boardgamearena.com/bug?id=22931• 你在想做什么的时候,触发了这个游戏选项?
Move 12 :11:22:02 AM
jade_alarm tells 53 is its highest card of this color• 当你想这么做时,发生了什么事(错误信息,游戏状态信息,......)?
• 你的浏览器是什么?
Mozilla v5
• 请问这个问题发生在游戏的哪个阶段(当前的游戏说明是什么)?
the crew manual page 6
If you want to communicate, take one of your color cards
and put it face up in front of you so everyone can see it. This
card remains part of your set of cards, so it can be played in
the normal way. The only difference is that every other crew
member now knows you have this card as well. Then place
your radio communication token with the green side up on
the card to give your crew members even more information:
> At the top, if it is your highest card of this color.
> In the middle, if it is your only card of this color.
> At the bottom, if it is your lowest card of this color.
---
The bga adaption let me put the token at the top of pink five even though it was my only pink card so I should have placed it in the middle.
It could be fixed by implementing this suggestion boardgamearena.com/bug?id=22931• 当你想进行一个游戏行动时,发生了什么事(错误信息,游戏状态信息,......)?
Move 12 :11:22:02 AM
jade_alarm tells 53 is its highest card of this color• 你的浏览器是什么?
Mozilla v5
• 请描述一下显示画面上面的问题。 如果你有这个系统漏洞发生时的屏幕截图(画质不要太差),你可以使用Imgur.com来把它上传到网络,然后将链接复制/粘贴到这里来。
the crew manual page 6
If you want to communicate, take one of your color cards
and put it face up in front of you so everyone can see it. This
card remains part of your set of cards, so it can be played in
the normal way. The only difference is that every other crew
member now knows you have this card as well. Then place
your radio communication token with the green side up on
the card to give your crew members even more information:
> At the top, if it is your highest card of this color.
> In the middle, if it is your only card of this color.
> At the bottom, if it is your lowest card of this color.
---
The bga adaption let me put the token at the top of pink five even though it was my only pink card so I should have placed it in the middle.
It could be fixed by implementing this suggestion boardgamearena.com/bug?id=22931• 你的浏览器是什么?
Mozilla v5
• 请以英文复制/粘贴显示文字而非你的语言。 如果你有这个系统漏洞发生时的屏幕截图(画质不要太差),你可以使用Imgur.com来把它上传到网络,然后将链接复制/粘贴到这里来。
the crew manual page 6
If you want to communicate, take one of your color cards
and put it face up in front of you so everyone can see it. This
card remains part of your set of cards, so it can be played in
the normal way. The only difference is that every other crew
member now knows you have this card as well. Then place
your radio communication token with the green side up on
the card to give your crew members even more information:
> At the top, if it is your highest card of this color.
> In the middle, if it is your only card of this color.
> At the bottom, if it is your lowest card of this color.
---
The bga adaption let me put the token at the top of pink five even though it was my only pink card so I should have placed it in the middle.
It could be fixed by implementing this suggestion boardgamearena.com/bug?id=22931• 这段文本在翻译系统中吗?如果存在,它被翻译是否已超过二十四小时了?
Move 12 :11:22:02 AM
jade_alarm tells 53 is its highest card of this color• 你的浏览器是什么?
Mozilla v5
• 请简明而精确地解释您的建议,以便让人明白您想表达的意思。
the crew manual page 6
If you want to communicate, take one of your color cards
and put it face up in front of you so everyone can see it. This
card remains part of your set of cards, so it can be played in
the normal way. The only difference is that every other crew
member now knows you have this card as well. Then place
your radio communication token with the green side up on
the card to give your crew members even more information:
> At the top, if it is your highest card of this color.
> In the middle, if it is your only card of this color.
> At the bottom, if it is your lowest card of this color.
---
The bga adaption let me put the token at the top of pink five even though it was my only pink card so I should have placed it in the middle.
It could be fixed by implementing this suggestion boardgamearena.com/bug?id=22931• 你的浏览器是什么?
Mozilla v5
案件历史
If you want to communicate the game should check whether you can communicate the card you want, and then automatically place the token in the right place, whether that's highest, lowest, only, or middle and red face up if a dead zone.
And the rules say that if it's my only card, I should place my token in the middle. Yes, my only card will necessarily be also my highest and lowest, but only overrides that because it is more specific (just like the arrows at traffic lights override the disc)
> In the middle, if it is your only card of this color.
> At the bottom, if it is your lowest card of this color.
I believe the rules intend the "if" to mean "if and only if" - ie the way most regular people would use the word if, not the way computer programmers would use it. Therefore, when the card is your only card of a colour the rules do not give you the choice of where to put it, it must go in the middle.
Even if it were allowed by the rules, I can't see that anyone would ever want to place it at the top or bottom when it's the only. It gives less information to your teammates and potentially confuses. The only possibility I can see is coming-up with some sort of convention where you say 1 is your highest or 9 is your lowest and it means some sort of special signal, but that seems like you're trying to break the game.
The placement of the radio communication tokens may
not be changed if the statement is no longer correct. For
example, a communicated “highest” card may become
the “only” card during the game. Nevertheless, the radio
communication token may not be moved.
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This clearly states that a communication of highest is not correct if it is your only card.
I agree that its suboptimal to clue it anything else if its your only card, however, BGA intends to implement the games as close to offline behavior as possible. Sub-optimal play or mistakes are part of any co-op. I don't think its fair to call it a bug when implemented as it is.
This could be put forth as a suggestion though. Just like picking up of the last task card.
(Secondarily, as jade_alarm mentioned earlier, this is a cooperative game: there's no reason to use up your very limited communication resource communicating less than is optimal.)
But primarily, this is just a bug: the rulebook clearly implies that an "only" card is NOT also a "highest" card. So there's at most one way to communicate about any card, and you shouldn't need to place the communication token manually.
增加一些新内容到这篇报告
- 其他的游戏桌 ID / 移动 ID
- 按 F5 是否解决了这个问题?
- 问题是否发生了好几次?还是每次都发生?还是时好时坏?
- 如果你有这个系统漏洞发生时的屏幕截图(画质不要太差),你可以使用Imgur.com来把它上传到网络,然后将链接复制/粘贴到这里来。