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#12774: "public civil cards"
#12774: "public civil cards"
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细节描述
• 如果有的话,请将你在屏幕上所看到的错误信息粘贴出来.
According to the handbook, civil cards info is public, even if they are in hand.• 请说明你当时想做什么,你做了什么,然后发生了什么
it's visible at any moment• 你的浏览器是什么?
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• 请简明而精确地解释您的建议,以便让人明白您想表达的意思。
According to the handbook, civil cards info is public, even if they are in hand.• 你的浏览器是什么?
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• 当你被封锁的时候,屏幕上出现了些什么呢?(空白的屏幕?部分游戏平台画面?错误的信息?)
According to the handbook, civil cards info is public, even if they are in hand.• 你的浏览器是什么?
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• 哪个规则没有被BGA的设计小组写进游戏里?
According to the handbook, civil cards info is public, even if they are in hand.• 在游戏回放中,是否有不符合游戏规则的地方?如果有的话,请问是在哪一步呢?
it's visible at any moment• 你的浏览器是什么?
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• 你当时是想做哪个游戏行动?
According to the handbook, civil cards info is public, even if they are in hand.• 你在想做什么的时候,触发了这个游戏选项?
it's visible at any moment• 当你想这么做时,发生了什么事(错误信息,游戏状态信息,......)?
• 你的浏览器是什么?
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• 请问这个问题发生在游戏的哪个阶段(当前的游戏说明是什么)?
According to the handbook, civil cards info is public, even if they are in hand.• 当你想进行一个游戏行动时,发生了什么事(错误信息,游戏状态信息,......)?
it's visible at any moment• 你的浏览器是什么?
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• 请描述一下显示画面上面的问题。 如果你有这个系统漏洞发生时的屏幕截图(画质不要太差),你可以使用Imgur.com来把它上传到网络,然后将链接复制/粘贴到这里来。
According to the handbook, civil cards info is public, even if they are in hand.• 你的浏览器是什么?
ie
• 请简明而精确地解释您的建议,以便让人明白您想表达的意思。
According to the handbook, civil cards info is public, even if they are in hand.• 你的浏览器是什么?
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案件历史
2019年6月14日 9:47 • tilalilalou • 漏洞尚未被修复:
Handbook states that "you MAY agree that any player must reveal his or her civil cards on request".
I change this ticket into a suggestion rather than a bug.
I change this ticket into a suggestion rather than a bug.
2019年6月14日 9:47 • tilalilalou • 此建议尚未被开发者分析过:
Vote it up if you would like civil cards in opponent hands to be visible.
2019年7月29日 18:00 • Yack_san • 此建议尚未被开发者分析过:
Correct - it's optional for all people to agree on such visibility ( i can argue on both sides whether it's useful or not:) ) . That feature is rather redundant to real-time games(when you should be focused what your oponnents doing:-)) but quite useful to long turn-based games when no chance to remember who did what 4 days ago :-)
2019年8月 2日 17:24 • LordChambers • 此建议尚未被开发者分析过:
I suggest that the tool tip which presently informs me "Card in Hand (Civil, Age III)" instead show the card as it appears when I mouse over the card row. Same existing tool tip, reused on another area of the interface.
The absence of this feature is likely to lose this player to the app.
The absence of this feature is likely to lose this player to the app.
2019年10月18日 10:46 • neo_en • 此建议尚未被开发者分析过:
I think it can be an option when the table is created (like the pacific variant)
2020年1月24日 0:08 • Broodja • 此建议尚未被开发者分析过:
I disagree it should be an option since you can anyway double-check log (unlike IRL), it brings nothing but inconvenience. Also showing opponent's card might motivate players to think more about indirect interactions between each other and improve quality of games.
2020年4月23日 14:55 • Cedrix • 此建议尚未被开发者分析过:
Agreed, an option for the game would be fine (by default show cards ;))
Upvote :)
Upvote :)
2020年4月30日 10:35 • Goomboss • 此建议尚未被开发者分析过:
"you can anyway double-check log"
Yeah, the game is just few hours long, why not making it even longer with checking a log for every card insted of showing it? Civil cards in hand should be visible by default, the strategy of the game doesn't revolve around it. If you ask for hidden civil cards you are just a tryhard who doesn't want to have fun with an honest challenge.
Yeah, the game is just few hours long, why not making it even longer with checking a log for every card insted of showing it? Civil cards in hand should be visible by default, the strategy of the game doesn't revolve around it. If you ask for hidden civil cards you are just a tryhard who doesn't want to have fun with an honest challenge.
2020年5月 1日 21:46 • Hertz Doughnut • 此建议尚未被开发者分析过:
Should always be public. Why force the players to tediously scroll through the log to reconstruct the other players' hands?
2020年5月17日 9:04 • Quilzar • 此建议尚未被开发者分析过:
In turn based game I 100% completely agree, I would prefer it to be in real time as well.
I would not mind it being optional either.
I would not mind it being optional either.
2020年5月18日 20:55 • Himmelstosh • 此建议尚未被开发者分析过:
Agree that civil cards in hand should be visible for everyone
2020年5月22日 17:54 • Marcuda • 此建议尚未被开发者分析过:
@tilalilalou I am happy to work on this issue if you would grant me access to the code.
2020年6月 5日 9:46 • junibegood • 此建议尚未被开发者分析过:
What the handbook says applies to real-life tabletop games only. In BGA, this information is already public (in the logs) and must remain public because of turn-based games.
We are discussing a GUI convenience feature, it does not change the game rules. If a choice must be made to use it or not, this should be a PLAYER choice, not a GM choice, either as an option (like those blue areas for automation features in Puerto Rico or Terra Mystica) or simply because displaying other players' civil cards requires an action. If you don't want to see other players' cards, you just don't click/hover on this feature.
That would really make everyone happy. :)
We are discussing a GUI convenience feature, it does not change the game rules. If a choice must be made to use it or not, this should be a PLAYER choice, not a GM choice, either as an option (like those blue areas for automation features in Puerto Rico or Terra Mystica) or simply because displaying other players' civil cards requires an action. If you don't want to see other players' cards, you just don't click/hover on this feature.
That would really make everyone happy. :)
2020年6月29日 15:12 • GSS_Bandit • 此建议尚未被开发者分析过:
as junibegood already said: information what cards the other player(s) took, is already public in the log.
if i scroll down the log far enough, i can exactly determine what civil cards are in each players hand.
so, logical conclusion would be to make the information available for turn-based play and optionally available for real-time play.
if i scroll down the log far enough, i can exactly determine what civil cards are in each players hand.
so, logical conclusion would be to make the information available for turn-based play and optionally available for real-time play.
2020年7月 5日 18:47 • Een • 本案件已由工作室的奖励猎人宣告解决,需要进一步检查及实装:
Deployed. If not issues arises from the patch, this will be closed as fixed in about a week.
2020年7月 5日 21:48 • Borup • 本案件已由工作室的奖励猎人宣告解决,需要进一步检查及实装:
I like it for turn based games and I dislike it for real-time games.
2020年7月 6日 11:23 • Waldoaless • 本案件已由工作室的奖励猎人宣告解决,需要进一步检查及实装:
in the instructions, it says that you can decide whether or not to keep the cards face up in the hand. so it has to be something in agreement with all players and not a mandatory option.
deciding whether showing cards should be the option before creating a game.
deciding whether showing cards should be the option before creating a game.
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