#101440: "More options to manage timer for developpers"
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• 如果有的话,请将你在屏幕上所看到的错误信息粘贴出来.
Hi, here is 3 examples where the timer goes wrong atm:
- the crew deep sea high mission/free choice: it's a cooperative game where one player got about 10 tasks to give to all 4 others players. Players can fully discuss during that phase. While most of the time having 3 minutes is enough to repart the tasks, regularly it's not.
The main point is that most players will not play those high missions. Which mean the penality will be given mainly to players which plays those high mission
- daybreak: you got between 5 actions and 30 to do every turn. Penalities happen very frequently. at this moment, the time per turn for slow games is +9:36 per turn (maximum 6:00). Since it's higher than the maximum time, the extra time got ignored
- reflection: it's a game where each player play solo and try to resolve a puzzle the fastest. It seem to have gotten an internal timer, and every time an action is done, the full timer is given to all players. But it doesn't look optimal• 请说明你当时想做什么,你做了什么,然后发生了什么
• 您正使用哪一款浏览器呢?
Mozilla v5
• 请以英文复制/粘贴显示文字而非你的语言。 如果你有这个系统漏洞发生时的屏幕截图(画质不要太差),你可以使用Imgur.com来把它上传到网络,然后将链接复制/粘贴到这里来。
Hi, here is 3 examples where the timer goes wrong atm:
- the crew deep sea high mission/free choice: it's a cooperative game where one player got about 10 tasks to give to all 4 others players. Players can fully discuss during that phase. While most of the time having 3 minutes is enough to repart the tasks, regularly it's not.
The main point is that most players will not play those high missions. Which mean the penality will be given mainly to players which plays those high mission
- daybreak: you got between 5 actions and 30 to do every turn. Penalities happen very frequently. at this moment, the time per turn for slow games is +9:36 per turn (maximum 6:00). Since it's higher than the maximum time, the extra time got ignored
- reflection: it's a game where each player play solo and try to resolve a puzzle the fastest. It seem to have gotten an internal timer, and every time an action is done, the full timer is given to all players. But it doesn't look optimal• 这段文本在翻译系统中吗?如果存在,它被翻译是否已超过二十四小时了?
• 您正使用哪一款浏览器呢?
Mozilla v5
• 请简明而精确地解释您的建议,以便让人明白您想表达的意思。
Hi, here is 3 examples where the timer goes wrong atm:
- the crew deep sea high mission/free choice: it's a cooperative game where one player got about 10 tasks to give to all 4 others players. Players can fully discuss during that phase. While most of the time having 3 minutes is enough to repart the tasks, regularly it's not.
The main point is that most players will not play those high missions. Which mean the penality will be given mainly to players which plays those high mission
- daybreak: you got between 5 actions and 30 to do every turn. Penalities happen very frequently. at this moment, the time per turn for slow games is +9:36 per turn (maximum 6:00). Since it's higher than the maximum time, the extra time got ignored
- reflection: it's a game where each player play solo and try to resolve a puzzle the fastest. It seem to have gotten an internal timer, and every time an action is done, the full timer is given to all players. But it doesn't look optimal• 您正使用哪一款浏览器呢?
Mozilla v5
• 当你被封锁的时候,屏幕上出现了些什么呢?(空白的屏幕?部分游戏平台画面?错误的信息?)
Hi, here is 3 examples where the timer goes wrong atm:
- the crew deep sea high mission/free choice: it's a cooperative game where one player got about 10 tasks to give to all 4 others players. Players can fully discuss during that phase. While most of the time having 3 minutes is enough to repart the tasks, regularly it's not.
The main point is that most players will not play those high missions. Which mean the penality will be given mainly to players which plays those high mission
- daybreak: you got between 5 actions and 30 to do every turn. Penalities happen very frequently. at this moment, the time per turn for slow games is +9:36 per turn (maximum 6:00). Since it's higher than the maximum time, the extra time got ignored
- reflection: it's a game where each player play solo and try to resolve a puzzle the fastest. It seem to have gotten an internal timer, and every time an action is done, the full timer is given to all players. But it doesn't look optimal• 您正使用哪一款浏览器呢?
Mozilla v5
• 哪个规则没有被BGA的设计小组写进游戏里?
Hi, here is 3 examples where the timer goes wrong atm:
- the crew deep sea high mission/free choice: it's a cooperative game where one player got about 10 tasks to give to all 4 others players. Players can fully discuss during that phase. While most of the time having 3 minutes is enough to repart the tasks, regularly it's not.
The main point is that most players will not play those high missions. Which mean the penality will be given mainly to players which plays those high mission
- daybreak: you got between 5 actions and 30 to do every turn. Penalities happen very frequently. at this moment, the time per turn for slow games is +9:36 per turn (maximum 6:00). Since it's higher than the maximum time, the extra time got ignored
- reflection: it's a game where each player play solo and try to resolve a puzzle the fastest. It seem to have gotten an internal timer, and every time an action is done, the full timer is given to all players. But it doesn't look optimal• 在游戏回放中,是否有不符合游戏规则的地方?如果有的话,请问是在哪一步呢?
• 您正使用哪一款浏览器呢?
Mozilla v5
• 你当时是想做哪个游戏行动?
Hi, here is 3 examples where the timer goes wrong atm:
- the crew deep sea high mission/free choice: it's a cooperative game where one player got about 10 tasks to give to all 4 others players. Players can fully discuss during that phase. While most of the time having 3 minutes is enough to repart the tasks, regularly it's not.
The main point is that most players will not play those high missions. Which mean the penality will be given mainly to players which plays those high mission
- daybreak: you got between 5 actions and 30 to do every turn. Penalities happen very frequently. at this moment, the time per turn for slow games is +9:36 per turn (maximum 6:00). Since it's higher than the maximum time, the extra time got ignored
- reflection: it's a game where each player play solo and try to resolve a puzzle the fastest. It seem to have gotten an internal timer, and every time an action is done, the full timer is given to all players. But it doesn't look optimal• 你在想做什么的时候,触发了这个游戏选项?
• 当你想这么做时,发生了什么事(错误信息,游戏状态信息,......)?
• 您正使用哪一款浏览器呢?
Mozilla v5
• 请问这个问题发生在游戏的哪个阶段(当前的游戏说明是什么)?
Hi, here is 3 examples where the timer goes wrong atm:
- the crew deep sea high mission/free choice: it's a cooperative game where one player got about 10 tasks to give to all 4 others players. Players can fully discuss during that phase. While most of the time having 3 minutes is enough to repart the tasks, regularly it's not.
The main point is that most players will not play those high missions. Which mean the penality will be given mainly to players which plays those high mission
- daybreak: you got between 5 actions and 30 to do every turn. Penalities happen very frequently. at this moment, the time per turn for slow games is +9:36 per turn (maximum 6:00). Since it's higher than the maximum time, the extra time got ignored
- reflection: it's a game where each player play solo and try to resolve a puzzle the fastest. It seem to have gotten an internal timer, and every time an action is done, the full timer is given to all players. But it doesn't look optimal• 当你想进行一个游戏行动时,发生了什么事(错误信息,游戏状态信息,......)?
• 您正使用哪一款浏览器呢?
Mozilla v5
• 请描述一下显示画面上面的问题。 如果你有这个系统漏洞发生时的屏幕截图(画质不要太差),你可以使用Imgur.com来把它上传到网络,然后将链接复制/粘贴到这里来。
Hi, here is 3 examples where the timer goes wrong atm:
- the crew deep sea high mission/free choice: it's a cooperative game where one player got about 10 tasks to give to all 4 others players. Players can fully discuss during that phase. While most of the time having 3 minutes is enough to repart the tasks, regularly it's not.
The main point is that most players will not play those high missions. Which mean the penality will be given mainly to players which plays those high mission
- daybreak: you got between 5 actions and 30 to do every turn. Penalities happen very frequently. at this moment, the time per turn for slow games is +9:36 per turn (maximum 6:00). Since it's higher than the maximum time, the extra time got ignored
- reflection: it's a game where each player play solo and try to resolve a puzzle the fastest. It seem to have gotten an internal timer, and every time an action is done, the full timer is given to all players. But it doesn't look optimal• 您正使用哪一款浏览器呢?
Mozilla v5
• 请以英文复制/粘贴显示文字而非你的语言。 如果你有这个系统漏洞发生时的屏幕截图(画质不要太差),你可以使用Imgur.com来把它上传到网络,然后将链接复制/粘贴到这里来。
Hi, here is 3 examples where the timer goes wrong atm:
- the crew deep sea high mission/free choice: it's a cooperative game where one player got about 10 tasks to give to all 4 others players. Players can fully discuss during that phase. While most of the time having 3 minutes is enough to repart the tasks, regularly it's not.
The main point is that most players will not play those high missions. Which mean the penality will be given mainly to players which plays those high mission
- daybreak: you got between 5 actions and 30 to do every turn. Penalities happen very frequently. at this moment, the time per turn for slow games is +9:36 per turn (maximum 6:00). Since it's higher than the maximum time, the extra time got ignored
- reflection: it's a game where each player play solo and try to resolve a puzzle the fastest. It seem to have gotten an internal timer, and every time an action is done, the full timer is given to all players. But it doesn't look optimal• 这段文本在翻译系统中吗?如果存在,它被翻译是否已超过二十四小时了?
• 您正使用哪一款浏览器呢?
Mozilla v5
• 请简明而精确地解释您的建议,以便让人明白您想表达的意思。
Hi, here is 3 examples where the timer goes wrong atm:
- the crew deep sea high mission/free choice: it's a cooperative game where one player got about 10 tasks to give to all 4 others players. Players can fully discuss during that phase. While most of the time having 3 minutes is enough to repart the tasks, regularly it's not.
The main point is that most players will not play those high missions. Which mean the penality will be given mainly to players which plays those high mission
- daybreak: you got between 5 actions and 30 to do every turn. Penalities happen very frequently. at this moment, the time per turn for slow games is +9:36 per turn (maximum 6:00). Since it's higher than the maximum time, the extra time got ignored
- reflection: it's a game where each player play solo and try to resolve a puzzle the fastest. It seem to have gotten an internal timer, and every time an action is done, the full timer is given to all players. But it doesn't look optimal• 您正使用哪一款浏览器呢?
Mozilla v5
案件历史
I propose some of those:
- increase max timer when the timer per turn is too high
- give a function to add more time, a fixed value and the time of a turn
- give an extra X minutes where no timer decrease while all players can discuss
- remove the timer for real time game (and strongly not advise it)
- give a way to put a player out of time (like maybe if no new action happenned while X% of maximum time, this % which could vary from 50% to 1000%)
All those actions can be done during the same turn for all players.
This causes problem because when player A sees that player B decided to select a code and choose a certain verificator, that can change the strategy of A.
Even worst, if player A want to maximise his thinking time, he should be choosing a code after the gain of timer don't goes over his limit. And do that too for the verificators.
Even worst, if player A know what is going to do, he should be waiting for all his timer to goes to 1second, and then do his action, to not reveal it to others players.
For this game, there should be a way during a turn where everyone can do actions, to reveal things at the same time.
So per example if player A decides to write a code, it should be hidden information, included timer.
If then player A decides to choose a first verificator, it should still be hidden information.
When player B on a 2 players game decides to write a code, at this moment, the information of A & B writing a code could be revaled.
When player B choose a first verificator too, it should be revealed to all players what A and B has been doing.
Furthermore, the gain of the timer should either be able to goes above the limit during those four actions, OR the initial timer should be higher than the limit (since you got 4 difficult actions to do).
We again goes back to have a way to have an higher timer than the limit.
So you wait for your opponent to do his action first. So if both players optimise and have time to lose, each of them do all of their actions while having less than 5 seconds on their timer.
One option make it so that you should get differents time limit depending of the option chosen, like the high missions of the crew.
You could decide to add like '30s' in timer when 'Cities and Knights' expansion is on/on a specific moment of the code specific to 'Cities and Knights', but that would require the developper to know what is going on to give the right amount.
On the cooperative games, that's not much a problem if the timer given is too high, but on a competitive game like 'Catan', if like the developper decide to put '3minutes' on a fast action, that can goes badly extremely fast. Same if he put a value of like '3x' where x represent anything. The 3 would be writed by the developer which maybe don't understand how all of that work.
So that doesn't work well, which is annoying, and I don't have a great idea about how to resolve it.
增加一些新内容到这篇报告
- 其他的游戏桌 ID / 移动 ID
- 按 F5 是否解决了这个问题?
- 问题是否发生了好几次?还是每次都发生?还是时好时坏?
- 如果你有这个系统漏洞发生时的屏幕截图(画质不要太差),你可以使用Imgur.com来把它上传到网络,然后将链接复制/粘贴到这里来。