#94820: "Game breaking exploit with barabarian and coast"
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• 如果有的话，请将你在屏幕上所看到的错误信息粘贴出来.
With the barbarian infinite sacrifice and the rejuvenate ability on the coast not being limited to 'once per turn', the barbarian was able to infinitely gain energy and single-handedly secured all locations and killed the final foe in one turn.
I'm not sure if this is a situation in the physical version of the game, but it seems like an unintended abuse of ability that could be rectified by having the coast only be able to be activated once per turn. -
• 请说明你当时想做什么，你做了什么，然后发生了什么
• 您正使用哪一款浏览器呢？
Google Chrome v115
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• 请以英文复制／粘贴显示文字而非你的语言。 如果你有这个系统漏洞发生时的屏幕截图(画质不要太差)，你可以使用Imgur.com来把它上传到网络，然后将链接复制/粘贴到这里来。
With the barbarian infinite sacrifice and the rejuvenate ability on the coast not being limited to 'once per turn', the barbarian was able to infinitely gain energy and single-handedly secured all locations and killed the final foe in one turn.
I'm not sure if this is a situation in the physical version of the game, but it seems like an unintended abuse of ability that could be rectified by having the coast only be able to be activated once per turn. -
• 这段文本在翻译系统中吗？如果存在，它被翻译是否已超过二十四小时？
• 您正使用哪一款浏览器呢？
Google Chrome v115
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• 请简明而精确地解释您的建议，以便让人明白您想表达的意思。
With the barbarian infinite sacrifice and the rejuvenate ability on the coast not being limited to 'once per turn', the barbarian was able to infinitely gain energy and single-handedly secured all locations and killed the final foe in one turn.
I'm not sure if this is a situation in the physical version of the game, but it seems like an unintended abuse of ability that could be rectified by having the coast only be able to be activated once per turn. • 您正使用哪一款浏览器呢？
Google Chrome v115
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• 当你被封锁的时候，屏幕上出现了些什么呢？(空白的屏幕？部分游戏平台画面？错误的信息？)
With the barbarian infinite sacrifice and the rejuvenate ability on the coast not being limited to 'once per turn', the barbarian was able to infinitely gain energy and single-handedly secured all locations and killed the final foe in one turn.
I'm not sure if this is a situation in the physical version of the game, but it seems like an unintended abuse of ability that could be rectified by having the coast only be able to be activated once per turn. • 您正使用哪一款浏览器呢？
Google Chrome v115
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• 哪个规则没有被BGA的设计小组写进游戏里？
With the barbarian infinite sacrifice and the rejuvenate ability on the coast not being limited to 'once per turn', the barbarian was able to infinitely gain energy and single-handedly secured all locations and killed the final foe in one turn.
I'm not sure if this is a situation in the physical version of the game, but it seems like an unintended abuse of ability that could be rectified by having the coast only be able to be activated once per turn. -
• 在游戏回放中，是否有不符合游戏规则的地方？如果有的话，请问是在哪一步呢？
• 您正使用哪一款浏览器呢？
Google Chrome v115
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• 你当时是想做哪个游戏行动？
With the barbarian infinite sacrifice and the rejuvenate ability on the coast not being limited to 'once per turn', the barbarian was able to infinitely gain energy and single-handedly secured all locations and killed the final foe in one turn.
I'm not sure if this is a situation in the physical version of the game, but it seems like an unintended abuse of ability that could be rectified by having the coast only be able to be activated once per turn. -
• 你在想做什么的时候，触发了这个游戏选项？
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• 当你想这么做时，发生了什么事(错误信息，游戏状态信息，......)？
• 您正使用哪一款浏览器呢？
Google Chrome v115
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• 请问这个问题发生在游戏的哪个阶段(当前的游戏说明是什么)？
With the barbarian infinite sacrifice and the rejuvenate ability on the coast not being limited to 'once per turn', the barbarian was able to infinitely gain energy and single-handedly secured all locations and killed the final foe in one turn.
I'm not sure if this is a situation in the physical version of the game, but it seems like an unintended abuse of ability that could be rectified by having the coast only be able to be activated once per turn. -
• 当你想进行一个游戏行动时，发生了什么事(错误信息，游戏状态信息，......)？
• 您正使用哪一款浏览器呢？
Google Chrome v115
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• 请描述一下显示画面上面的问题。 如果你有这个系统漏洞发生时的屏幕截图(画质不要太差)，你可以使用Imgur.com来把它上传到网络，然后将链接复制/粘贴到这里来。
With the barbarian infinite sacrifice and the rejuvenate ability on the coast not being limited to 'once per turn', the barbarian was able to infinitely gain energy and single-handedly secured all locations and killed the final foe in one turn.
I'm not sure if this is a situation in the physical version of the game, but it seems like an unintended abuse of ability that could be rectified by having the coast only be able to be activated once per turn. • 您正使用哪一款浏览器呢？
Google Chrome v115
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• 请以英文复制／粘贴显示文字而非你的语言。 如果你有这个系统漏洞发生时的屏幕截图(画质不要太差)，你可以使用Imgur.com来把它上传到网络，然后将链接复制/粘贴到这里来。
With the barbarian infinite sacrifice and the rejuvenate ability on the coast not being limited to 'once per turn', the barbarian was able to infinitely gain energy and single-handedly secured all locations and killed the final foe in one turn.
I'm not sure if this is a situation in the physical version of the game, but it seems like an unintended abuse of ability that could be rectified by having the coast only be able to be activated once per turn. -
• 这段文本在翻译系统中吗？如果存在，它被翻译是否已超过二十四小时？
• 您正使用哪一款浏览器呢？
Google Chrome v115
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• 请简明而精确地解释您的建议，以便让人明白您想表达的意思。
With the barbarian infinite sacrifice and the rejuvenate ability on the coast not being limited to 'once per turn', the barbarian was able to infinitely gain energy and single-handedly secured all locations and killed the final foe in one turn.
I'm not sure if this is a situation in the physical version of the game, but it seems like an unintended abuse of ability that could be rectified by having the coast only be able to be activated once per turn. • 您正使用哪一款浏览器呢？
Google Chrome v115
案件历史
Is there a limit on how many times you can use "Berserk?"
Yes. You can only sacrifice 1 additional Health Point to gain 1 additional Action Point on top of the regular ability to sacrifice 1 Health for 1 extra Action. Effectively, this allows you to perform the sacrifice twice in one turn for a maximum of 2 extra Actions per turn, as opposed to the limit imposed on every other player of only one sacrifice per turn for a maximum of 1 extra Action per turn.
This is a bug.
What I do not know is: Is this FAQ answer official? I could change the behaviour of Berserk to "once per turn". But as soon as I change it, I will get new bug reports saying the ability is not working as written in the card: "you may use Sacrifice >>> multiple times <<< (as long as you have HP to pay)". That's why I hesitate to fix it.
I also tend to the solution to use the coast only once per turn. But i do not foresee this will break something else.
Changing berserk ability to be activated only once per turn is an easy fix.
Any thoughts?
How many times can I use a Region's ability?
Action abilities are limited to being used only once per turn. Passive abilities are always applicable in a Region that is not Destroyed and have no limit on use.
So, the solution to this bug would be making the coast's rejuvenate ability only once per turn.
But this rule would also apply to all other regions. For example 2AP for Forest/Enchant to reduce threat in any outer region. This could only be used once too. I for my self use it frequently more then once per turn. And it does not feel very powerfull.
When you check the Plains/Prayer ability with, it says "2AP: Draw the top card ... (once per Turn)"
I read it this way: The designer already knew an ability can be used more the once per Turn by default, so he needed to explicitly limit the usage.
So the unofficial FAQ does not add up with my thoughts on this.
New idea: I could disable the coast ability as soon as berserk is used once in a turn. This would have the same effect as not beeing able to end the turn in the capital. The player can not heal himself in this turn anymore.
This would not break anything else, because the rule is tied to the berserk ability.
start: 0HP, 4AP
heal: -2AP -> 4HP, 2AP
sacririce all HP: 0HP, 6AP
Using Berserk and Rejuvenate will give you 2 additional AP, however having 0 HP and not beeing able to secure/fight/defend is not the best choice.
Or you get just 1 additional AP while still having 1HP left.
Also this only works at the Coast region as long as you do not move to another Region.
But I forgot I am not building from source control, so this change "accidentally" made it to production.
On the bright side, this exploit is now kind of fixed.
I had not much luck contacting publisher or designer except a one liner from support once. That's why the game was in alpha state this long. I could open a new threat in BGG in hopes someone still cares for the game.
I am still open for other changes / solutions with Berserk ability. But the discussion here on BGA helped a lot.
增加一些新内容到这篇报告
- 其他的游戏桌 ID / 移动 ID
- 按 F5 是否解决了这个问题？
- 问题是否发生了好几次？还是每次都发生？还是时好时坏？
- 如果你有这个系统漏洞发生时的屏幕截图(画质不要太差)，你可以使用Imgur.com来把它上传到网络，然后将链接复制/粘贴到这里来。
