#87310: "Burgle Bros - Loitering check"
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• 如果有的话,请将你在屏幕上所看到的错误信息粘贴出来.
Currently in Burgle Bros, the rules state you're not allowed to move "back and forth" in order to avoid drawing an event. However, it has been stated that this would be too difficult to code, and would result in false positives, and so (understandably), the devs focused on more productive things.
As a programmer myself, I spent some time analyzing the problem, as I knew I could tackle this, and I have the time to (unlike your devs :) ) and believe I have a draft solution which is a viable option as it:
1) doesn't result in false positives.
2) Simple coding logic changes to implement - nothing major, no redesign needed - you have all the info already, it's just a matter of gathering it up and using it properly.
3) flexible - so we can focus on the "simple"/obvious checks first .. and consider expanding to trickier ones later (if we want).
The logic is simple:
1) capture the current board "state" (everything, including tiles, hidden tiles, walls, player/guard positions, tools/loot positions, hack tokens .. alarms .. etc.) store it as a simple string (1 character per "item", ie Safe = "S", Walkway = "W", etc.)
2) boolean flag to indicate dice were rolled (ie safe, keypad, etc.) This provides a marker, as we won't compare board states beyond a dice roll. (think 1 move into a keypad, and failing the roll)
3) Compare latest board state with al previous ones up to a die roll event.
4) if any match, reject the move as "loitering" ..
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• 请以英文复制/粘贴显示文字而非你的语言。 如果你有这个系统漏洞发生时的屏幕截图(画质不要太差),你可以使用Imgur.com来把它上传到网络,然后将链接复制/粘贴到这里来。
Currently in Burgle Bros, the rules state you're not allowed to move "back and forth" in order to avoid drawing an event. However, it has been stated that this would be too difficult to code, and would result in false positives, and so (understandably), the devs focused on more productive things.
As a programmer myself, I spent some time analyzing the problem, as I knew I could tackle this, and I have the time to (unlike your devs :) ) and believe I have a draft solution which is a viable option as it:
1) doesn't result in false positives.
2) Simple coding logic changes to implement - nothing major, no redesign needed - you have all the info already, it's just a matter of gathering it up and using it properly.
3) flexible - so we can focus on the "simple"/obvious checks first .. and consider expanding to trickier ones later (if we want).
The logic is simple:
1) capture the current board "state" (everything, including tiles, hidden tiles, walls, player/guard positions, tools/loot positions, hack tokens .. alarms .. etc.) store it as a simple string (1 character per "item", ie Safe = "S", Walkway = "W", etc.)
2) boolean flag to indicate dice were rolled (ie safe, keypad, etc.) This provides a marker, as we won't compare board states beyond a dice roll. (think 1 move into a keypad, and failing the roll)
3) Compare latest board state with al previous ones up to a die roll event.
4) if any match, reject the move as "loitering" ..
• 这段文本在翻译系统中吗?如果存在,它被翻译是否已超过二十四小时了?
• 你的浏览器是什么?
Google Chrome v112
• 请简明而精确地解释您的建议,以便让人明白您想表达的意思。
Currently in Burgle Bros, the rules state you're not allowed to move "back and forth" in order to avoid drawing an event. However, it has been stated that this would be too difficult to code, and would result in false positives, and so (understandably), the devs focused on more productive things.
As a programmer myself, I spent some time analyzing the problem, as I knew I could tackle this, and I have the time to (unlike your devs :) ) and believe I have a draft solution which is a viable option as it:
1) doesn't result in false positives.
2) Simple coding logic changes to implement - nothing major, no redesign needed - you have all the info already, it's just a matter of gathering it up and using it properly.
3) flexible - so we can focus on the "simple"/obvious checks first .. and consider expanding to trickier ones later (if we want).
The logic is simple:
1) capture the current board "state" (everything, including tiles, hidden tiles, walls, player/guard positions, tools/loot positions, hack tokens .. alarms .. etc.) store it as a simple string (1 character per "item", ie Safe = "S", Walkway = "W", etc.)
2) boolean flag to indicate dice were rolled (ie safe, keypad, etc.) This provides a marker, as we won't compare board states beyond a dice roll. (think 1 move into a keypad, and failing the roll)
3) Compare latest board state with al previous ones up to a die roll event.
4) if any match, reject the move as "loitering" ..
• 你的浏览器是什么?
Google Chrome v112
• 当你被封锁的时候,屏幕上出现了些什么呢?(空白的屏幕?部分游戏平台画面?错误的信息?)
Currently in Burgle Bros, the rules state you're not allowed to move "back and forth" in order to avoid drawing an event. However, it has been stated that this would be too difficult to code, and would result in false positives, and so (understandably), the devs focused on more productive things.
As a programmer myself, I spent some time analyzing the problem, as I knew I could tackle this, and I have the time to (unlike your devs :) ) and believe I have a draft solution which is a viable option as it:
1) doesn't result in false positives.
2) Simple coding logic changes to implement - nothing major, no redesign needed - you have all the info already, it's just a matter of gathering it up and using it properly.
3) flexible - so we can focus on the "simple"/obvious checks first .. and consider expanding to trickier ones later (if we want).
The logic is simple:
1) capture the current board "state" (everything, including tiles, hidden tiles, walls, player/guard positions, tools/loot positions, hack tokens .. alarms .. etc.) store it as a simple string (1 character per "item", ie Safe = "S", Walkway = "W", etc.)
2) boolean flag to indicate dice were rolled (ie safe, keypad, etc.) This provides a marker, as we won't compare board states beyond a dice roll. (think 1 move into a keypad, and failing the roll)
3) Compare latest board state with al previous ones up to a die roll event.
4) if any match, reject the move as "loitering" ..
• 你的浏览器是什么?
Google Chrome v112
• 哪个规则没有被BGA的设计小组写进游戏里?
Currently in Burgle Bros, the rules state you're not allowed to move "back and forth" in order to avoid drawing an event. However, it has been stated that this would be too difficult to code, and would result in false positives, and so (understandably), the devs focused on more productive things.
As a programmer myself, I spent some time analyzing the problem, as I knew I could tackle this, and I have the time to (unlike your devs :) ) and believe I have a draft solution which is a viable option as it:
1) doesn't result in false positives.
2) Simple coding logic changes to implement - nothing major, no redesign needed - you have all the info already, it's just a matter of gathering it up and using it properly.
3) flexible - so we can focus on the "simple"/obvious checks first .. and consider expanding to trickier ones later (if we want).
The logic is simple:
1) capture the current board "state" (everything, including tiles, hidden tiles, walls, player/guard positions, tools/loot positions, hack tokens .. alarms .. etc.) store it as a simple string (1 character per "item", ie Safe = "S", Walkway = "W", etc.)
2) boolean flag to indicate dice were rolled (ie safe, keypad, etc.) This provides a marker, as we won't compare board states beyond a dice roll. (think 1 move into a keypad, and failing the roll)
3) Compare latest board state with al previous ones up to a die roll event.
4) if any match, reject the move as "loitering" ..
• 在游戏回放中,是否有不符合游戏规则的地方?如果有的话,请问是在哪一步呢?
• 你的浏览器是什么?
Google Chrome v112
• 你当时是想做哪个游戏行动?
Currently in Burgle Bros, the rules state you're not allowed to move "back and forth" in order to avoid drawing an event. However, it has been stated that this would be too difficult to code, and would result in false positives, and so (understandably), the devs focused on more productive things.
As a programmer myself, I spent some time analyzing the problem, as I knew I could tackle this, and I have the time to (unlike your devs :) ) and believe I have a draft solution which is a viable option as it:
1) doesn't result in false positives.
2) Simple coding logic changes to implement - nothing major, no redesign needed - you have all the info already, it's just a matter of gathering it up and using it properly.
3) flexible - so we can focus on the "simple"/obvious checks first .. and consider expanding to trickier ones later (if we want).
The logic is simple:
1) capture the current board "state" (everything, including tiles, hidden tiles, walls, player/guard positions, tools/loot positions, hack tokens .. alarms .. etc.) store it as a simple string (1 character per "item", ie Safe = "S", Walkway = "W", etc.)
2) boolean flag to indicate dice were rolled (ie safe, keypad, etc.) This provides a marker, as we won't compare board states beyond a dice roll. (think 1 move into a keypad, and failing the roll)
3) Compare latest board state with al previous ones up to a die roll event.
4) if any match, reject the move as "loitering" ..
• 你在想做什么的时候,触发了这个游戏选项?
• 当你想这么做时,发生了什么事(错误信息,游戏状态信息,......)?
• 你的浏览器是什么?
Google Chrome v112
• 请问这个问题发生在游戏的哪个阶段(当前的游戏说明是什么)?
Currently in Burgle Bros, the rules state you're not allowed to move "back and forth" in order to avoid drawing an event. However, it has been stated that this would be too difficult to code, and would result in false positives, and so (understandably), the devs focused on more productive things.
As a programmer myself, I spent some time analyzing the problem, as I knew I could tackle this, and I have the time to (unlike your devs :) ) and believe I have a draft solution which is a viable option as it:
1) doesn't result in false positives.
2) Simple coding logic changes to implement - nothing major, no redesign needed - you have all the info already, it's just a matter of gathering it up and using it properly.
3) flexible - so we can focus on the "simple"/obvious checks first .. and consider expanding to trickier ones later (if we want).
The logic is simple:
1) capture the current board "state" (everything, including tiles, hidden tiles, walls, player/guard positions, tools/loot positions, hack tokens .. alarms .. etc.) store it as a simple string (1 character per "item", ie Safe = "S", Walkway = "W", etc.)
2) boolean flag to indicate dice were rolled (ie safe, keypad, etc.) This provides a marker, as we won't compare board states beyond a dice roll. (think 1 move into a keypad, and failing the roll)
3) Compare latest board state with al previous ones up to a die roll event.
4) if any match, reject the move as "loitering" ..
• 当你想进行一个游戏行动时,发生了什么事(错误信息,游戏状态信息,......)?
• 你的浏览器是什么?
Google Chrome v112
• 请描述一下显示画面上面的问题。 如果你有这个系统漏洞发生时的屏幕截图(画质不要太差),你可以使用Imgur.com来把它上传到网络,然后将链接复制/粘贴到这里来。
Currently in Burgle Bros, the rules state you're not allowed to move "back and forth" in order to avoid drawing an event. However, it has been stated that this would be too difficult to code, and would result in false positives, and so (understandably), the devs focused on more productive things.
As a programmer myself, I spent some time analyzing the problem, as I knew I could tackle this, and I have the time to (unlike your devs :) ) and believe I have a draft solution which is a viable option as it:
1) doesn't result in false positives.
2) Simple coding logic changes to implement - nothing major, no redesign needed - you have all the info already, it's just a matter of gathering it up and using it properly.
3) flexible - so we can focus on the "simple"/obvious checks first .. and consider expanding to trickier ones later (if we want).
The logic is simple:
1) capture the current board "state" (everything, including tiles, hidden tiles, walls, player/guard positions, tools/loot positions, hack tokens .. alarms .. etc.) store it as a simple string (1 character per "item", ie Safe = "S", Walkway = "W", etc.)
2) boolean flag to indicate dice were rolled (ie safe, keypad, etc.) This provides a marker, as we won't compare board states beyond a dice roll. (think 1 move into a keypad, and failing the roll)
3) Compare latest board state with al previous ones up to a die roll event.
4) if any match, reject the move as "loitering" ..
• 你的浏览器是什么?
Google Chrome v112
• 请以英文复制/粘贴显示文字而非你的语言。 如果你有这个系统漏洞发生时的屏幕截图(画质不要太差),你可以使用Imgur.com来把它上传到网络,然后将链接复制/粘贴到这里来。
Currently in Burgle Bros, the rules state you're not allowed to move "back and forth" in order to avoid drawing an event. However, it has been stated that this would be too difficult to code, and would result in false positives, and so (understandably), the devs focused on more productive things.
As a programmer myself, I spent some time analyzing the problem, as I knew I could tackle this, and I have the time to (unlike your devs :) ) and believe I have a draft solution which is a viable option as it:
1) doesn't result in false positives.
2) Simple coding logic changes to implement - nothing major, no redesign needed - you have all the info already, it's just a matter of gathering it up and using it properly.
3) flexible - so we can focus on the "simple"/obvious checks first .. and consider expanding to trickier ones later (if we want).
The logic is simple:
1) capture the current board "state" (everything, including tiles, hidden tiles, walls, player/guard positions, tools/loot positions, hack tokens .. alarms .. etc.) store it as a simple string (1 character per "item", ie Safe = "S", Walkway = "W", etc.)
2) boolean flag to indicate dice were rolled (ie safe, keypad, etc.) This provides a marker, as we won't compare board states beyond a dice roll. (think 1 move into a keypad, and failing the roll)
3) Compare latest board state with al previous ones up to a die roll event.
4) if any match, reject the move as "loitering" ..
• 这段文本在翻译系统中吗?如果存在,它被翻译是否已超过二十四小时了?
• 你的浏览器是什么?
Google Chrome v112
• 请简明而精确地解释您的建议,以便让人明白您想表达的意思。
Currently in Burgle Bros, the rules state you're not allowed to move "back and forth" in order to avoid drawing an event. However, it has been stated that this would be too difficult to code, and would result in false positives, and so (understandably), the devs focused on more productive things.
As a programmer myself, I spent some time analyzing the problem, as I knew I could tackle this, and I have the time to (unlike your devs :) ) and believe I have a draft solution which is a viable option as it:
1) doesn't result in false positives.
2) Simple coding logic changes to implement - nothing major, no redesign needed - you have all the info already, it's just a matter of gathering it up and using it properly.
3) flexible - so we can focus on the "simple"/obvious checks first .. and consider expanding to trickier ones later (if we want).
The logic is simple:
1) capture the current board "state" (everything, including tiles, hidden tiles, walls, player/guard positions, tools/loot positions, hack tokens .. alarms .. etc.) store it as a simple string (1 character per "item", ie Safe = "S", Walkway = "W", etc.)
2) boolean flag to indicate dice were rolled (ie safe, keypad, etc.) This provides a marker, as we won't compare board states beyond a dice roll. (think 1 move into a keypad, and failing the roll)
3) Compare latest board state with al previous ones up to a die roll event.
4) if any match, reject the move as "loitering" ..
• 你的浏览器是什么?
Google Chrome v112
案件历史
boardgamearena.com/forum/viewtopic.php?t=30165
In the linked .zip is a flowchart showing the logic, and it should be reasonable easy to fit into, and after some additionally games. and review, I think it should be reasonable robust.
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- 如果你有这个系统漏洞发生时的屏幕截图(画质不要太差),你可以使用Imgur.com来把它上传到网络,然后将链接复制/粘贴到这里来。