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#77110: "Newly built shypyard is not hidden after Econ Phase"

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2022年Dec6日 13:48 • tarkalak • 漏洞尚未被修复:

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2022年Dec6日 16:26 • Lunalol • 游戏开发者需要更多的信息来修复这个系统漏洞:

Spaceships from any players are HIDDEN at START of that player turn, not before.

Rule-book page 7, 5.11 POST COMBAT
"If they start a turn in the same hex as one of their colonies, they may be flipped face down"

2022年Dec6日 16:45 • tarkalak • 游戏开发者需要更多的信息来修复这个系统漏洞:

This doesn't feel quite right.

My opponent should be able to build his Shipyard as a hidden unit then. And I shouldn't know if he upgraded any technologies on his shipyards or Bases. Technology is only revealed in Combat, so technically the tooltip should show what was last revealed, not what is the actual level.

I have not played instant upgrades so I don't know how it works there.

2022年Dec6日 16:51 • tarkalak • 游戏开发者需要更多的信息来修复这个系统漏洞:

Although I am not sure if he upgraded his tactics or not in this case and whether I would have seen that.

2022年Dec9日 21:09 • tarkalak • 游戏开发者需要更多的信息来修复这个系统漏洞:

As a side note, if I mouse over a unit in the log, that fought in an old battle, will I see this ship counter's current stats or the stats it had during the old battle?

2022年Dec9日 23:36 • Lunalol • 游戏开发者需要更多的信息来修复这个系统漏洞:

Logs display old stats (at the time logs is written)

2022年Dec10日 15:58 • Lunalol • 游戏开发者尚未设法复现该系统漏洞:

As (check rulebook), ships are hidden at start of a player turn, they are not hidden at start of eco phase.
So I will say that they is no bug, but I'm not sure.

2022年Dec10日 16:55 • tarkalak • 游戏开发者尚未设法复现该系统漏洞:

Yeah, I agree.

Player should have the option to build a Hidden dock as another counter, though. I am not sure if mouse over will show any upgrade bought in the econ phase the SY is visible.

2022年Dec10日 17:02 • Lunalol • 此建议尚未被开发者分析过:

OK, suggestion : if counters are available, new build units will use a NEW counter if already build units are revealed.If no counters are available, new build units will increment group count of an already build unit.
If units are not revealed, last case is used too.

In any case, after build phase, at player turn, units can be merged (all hidden).

2023年Feb27日 18:34 • Galdred • 此建议尚未被开发者分析过:

I think it would be better to always have the option to build a new counter (ie, build 2 SC as 2 counters).
Otherwise, it makes it really obvious when you build fighters (it would also be good to be able to move several counters at the same time for the same reason).

2023年Feb27日 18:59 • Lunalol • 此建议尚未被开发者分析过:

"it would also be good to be able to move several counters at the same time for the same reason"
Do you know this has been around for months?

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