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#7528: "No draw proposal or condition in the game"

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2017年May24日 10:42 • ufm • 漏洞尚未被修复:

Basically, Nine Men's Morris always ends in a draw if both players play perfectly.
However there is no draw condition or proposal implemented in the game.
If nobody forms a mill due to the game situation, in actual gameplay this is a tie, but in BGA the game must be abandoned or it will just repeat similar moves endlessly.

Also, it is impossible to surrender in moving phase even though someone already lost the game due to stone positioning.
In this case it should be able to surrender to end the game early like other abstract games.

2017年May24日 17:18 • apollo1001 • 漏洞尚未被修复:

Thank you for the suggestion.

I did some research on this when implementing the game. Essentially it seems that even top human players do not play optimally, so a stalemate (draw) effectively will never be reached. I figured that you can collectively abandon the game however if you agree a tie is appropriate.

I'll wait and see if lots of people need this feature in practice!

2017年May25日 06:46 • ufm • 漏洞尚未被修复:

Thanks for reply.
Well, surely it happens rarely, but what about tournament games?
I'm about to open one, but tourney games are not allowed to be abandoned.

2017年May27日 04:58 • ufm • 漏洞尚未被修复:

Oh, tournament games can be abandoned :S
I didn't notice that...

2017年May28日 13:30 • postmans • 漏洞尚未被修复:

Optimal play leads to draws. However apollo states this rarely happens, as humans often play non-optimal. I found however that also with not that good players (I by far am not really good in the game) can get into a stalemate or impasse position. In en.4.boardgamearena.com/ninemensmorris?table=30580418 both me and my oponnent ended up doing the same moves a few times at the end. Both of us did not see a winning plan (maybe there was one, but neither of us was risking their save positions to force it). I felt that game deserved a draw, now we abandoned it, but that doesn't do right to the fact that my opponent had 100 rating less, and as we played equally should have taken a small rating bite from me.

2018年Jun6日 21:18 • apollo1001 • 漏洞已修复:

It's taken me almost a year to get around to this one, but I've just added the option to offer a draw which in particular should now allow tournaments to function a little better.

Enjoy!

2020年Sep29日 12:47 • fiver5 • 漏洞已修复:

This is not fair. On table #114658686, I reached a draw with someone having ELO of 422, while my ELO is 80. He admits it's a draw, but he won't accept draw because his rating will drop.
So we have been playing the same moves for 2 hours now. The rules are that if the same position repeats 3 times each player should be able to declare a draw. boardgamearena.com/6/ninemensmorris?table=114658686

2021年Mar12日 16:46 • TygerTad • 漏洞已修复:

boardgamearena.com/9/ninemensmo ... =149187949

The game is clearly draw and nobody is making blunders.

I offered draw 3 times but my opponent refused and he offers continuously to abort the game, so he doesn't lose his Elo points.

This is an unpleasant episode of unfairplay conduct, probably there isn't the draw for 50 moves rule like in chess, so we are playing for the etenity.

My opponent also takes advantage this is an arena mode match and when season 4° ends, the match will be automatically aborted and he will save his Elo points.

What can i do? I want to report his miscounduct and suggest to introduce some draw rules like in chess to avoid infinity games and unfairplay conduct of opponents.

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