#68245: "Players that leave due to being far behind should not tie with the people who come in last"
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• 如果有的话，请将你在屏幕上所看到的错误信息粘贴出来.
If I player leaves early due to being super far behind they get the same place as the next person who did not leave as if they tied with them. Their time also freezes in tournament play.
This can create bad results and be abused. Specifically in tournament play: 1) a given up player will get first place if the game is abandoned due to game total time reached, thus they are going to get the points/move on even though they were clearly in last. 2) on games that finish on time, they get undeserved points and could be advanced over someone who actually finished the race.
There is probably some sort of arena downside too -
• 请说明你当时想做什么，你做了什么，然后发生了什么
• 您正使用哪一款浏览器呢？
Google Chrome v103
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• 请以英文复制／粘贴显示文字而非你的语言。 如果你有这个系统漏洞发生时的屏幕截图(画质不要太差)，你可以使用Imgur.com来把它上传到网络，然后将链接复制/粘贴到这里来。
If I player leaves early due to being super far behind they get the same place as the next person who did not leave as if they tied with them. Their time also freezes in tournament play.
This can create bad results and be abused. Specifically in tournament play: 1) a given up player will get first place if the game is abandoned due to game total time reached, thus they are going to get the points/move on even though they were clearly in last. 2) on games that finish on time, they get undeserved points and could be advanced over someone who actually finished the race.
There is probably some sort of arena downside too -
• 这段文本在翻译系统中吗？如果存在，它被翻译是否已超过二十四小时？
• 您正使用哪一款浏览器呢？
Google Chrome v103
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• 请简明而精确地解释您的建议，以便让人明白您想表达的意思。
If I player leaves early due to being super far behind they get the same place as the next person who did not leave as if they tied with them. Their time also freezes in tournament play.
This can create bad results and be abused. Specifically in tournament play: 1) a given up player will get first place if the game is abandoned due to game total time reached, thus they are going to get the points/move on even though they were clearly in last. 2) on games that finish on time, they get undeserved points and could be advanced over someone who actually finished the race.
There is probably some sort of arena downside too • 您正使用哪一款浏览器呢？
Google Chrome v103
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• 当你被封锁的时候，屏幕上出现了些什么呢？(空白的屏幕？部分游戏平台画面？错误的信息？)
If I player leaves early due to being super far behind they get the same place as the next person who did not leave as if they tied with them. Their time also freezes in tournament play.
This can create bad results and be abused. Specifically in tournament play: 1) a given up player will get first place if the game is abandoned due to game total time reached, thus they are going to get the points/move on even though they were clearly in last. 2) on games that finish on time, they get undeserved points and could be advanced over someone who actually finished the race.
There is probably some sort of arena downside too • 您正使用哪一款浏览器呢？
Google Chrome v103
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• 哪个规则没有被BGA的设计小组写进游戏里？
If I player leaves early due to being super far behind they get the same place as the next person who did not leave as if they tied with them. Their time also freezes in tournament play.
This can create bad results and be abused. Specifically in tournament play: 1) a given up player will get first place if the game is abandoned due to game total time reached, thus they are going to get the points/move on even though they were clearly in last. 2) on games that finish on time, they get undeserved points and could be advanced over someone who actually finished the race.
There is probably some sort of arena downside too -
• 在游戏回放中，是否有不符合游戏规则的地方？如果有的话，请问是在哪一步呢？
• 您正使用哪一款浏览器呢？
Google Chrome v103
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• 你当时是想做哪个游戏行动？
If I player leaves early due to being super far behind they get the same place as the next person who did not leave as if they tied with them. Their time also freezes in tournament play.
This can create bad results and be abused. Specifically in tournament play: 1) a given up player will get first place if the game is abandoned due to game total time reached, thus they are going to get the points/move on even though they were clearly in last. 2) on games that finish on time, they get undeserved points and could be advanced over someone who actually finished the race.
There is probably some sort of arena downside too -
• 你在想做什么的时候，触发了这个游戏选项？
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• 当你想这么做时，发生了什么事(错误信息，游戏状态信息，......)？
• 您正使用哪一款浏览器呢？
Google Chrome v103
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• 请问这个问题发生在游戏的哪个阶段(当前的游戏说明是什么)？
If I player leaves early due to being super far behind they get the same place as the next person who did not leave as if they tied with them. Their time also freezes in tournament play.
This can create bad results and be abused. Specifically in tournament play: 1) a given up player will get first place if the game is abandoned due to game total time reached, thus they are going to get the points/move on even though they were clearly in last. 2) on games that finish on time, they get undeserved points and could be advanced over someone who actually finished the race.
There is probably some sort of arena downside too -
• 当你想进行一个游戏行动时，发生了什么事(错误信息，游戏状态信息，......)？
• 您正使用哪一款浏览器呢？
Google Chrome v103
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• 请描述一下显示画面上面的问题。 如果你有这个系统漏洞发生时的屏幕截图(画质不要太差)，你可以使用Imgur.com来把它上传到网络，然后将链接复制/粘贴到这里来。
If I player leaves early due to being super far behind they get the same place as the next person who did not leave as if they tied with them. Their time also freezes in tournament play.
This can create bad results and be abused. Specifically in tournament play: 1) a given up player will get first place if the game is abandoned due to game total time reached, thus they are going to get the points/move on even though they were clearly in last. 2) on games that finish on time, they get undeserved points and could be advanced over someone who actually finished the race.
There is probably some sort of arena downside too • 您正使用哪一款浏览器呢？
Google Chrome v103
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• 请以英文复制／粘贴显示文字而非你的语言。 如果你有这个系统漏洞发生时的屏幕截图(画质不要太差)，你可以使用Imgur.com来把它上传到网络，然后将链接复制/粘贴到这里来。
If I player leaves early due to being super far behind they get the same place as the next person who did not leave as if they tied with them. Their time also freezes in tournament play.
This can create bad results and be abused. Specifically in tournament play: 1) a given up player will get first place if the game is abandoned due to game total time reached, thus they are going to get the points/move on even though they were clearly in last. 2) on games that finish on time, they get undeserved points and could be advanced over someone who actually finished the race.
There is probably some sort of arena downside too -
• 这段文本在翻译系统中吗？如果存在，它被翻译是否已超过二十四小时？
• 您正使用哪一款浏览器呢？
Google Chrome v103
-
• 请简明而精确地解释您的建议，以便让人明白您想表达的意思。
If I player leaves early due to being super far behind they get the same place as the next person who did not leave as if they tied with them. Their time also freezes in tournament play.
This can create bad results and be abused. Specifically in tournament play: 1) a given up player will get first place if the game is abandoned due to game total time reached, thus they are going to get the points/move on even though they were clearly in last. 2) on games that finish on time, they get undeserved points and could be advanced over someone who actually finished the race.
There is probably some sort of arena downside too • 您正使用哪一款浏览器呢？
Google Chrome v103
案件历史
i have never played arena/tournament so i don't know how those work, could you be more specific?
do you mean player concede or abandon? abandon is handled by the bga framework. when one player abandon the game is considered cancelled and everyone but the leaving player gets same score no matter what. abandon i cannot disable i think.
My most recent experience was in the alpha version of the game: boardgamearena.com/table?table=285428630
A player who was very far behind used the game feature and basically was rewarded 5th place instead of the 6th place if they did not use the feature.
I don't don't believe that abandon has this issue, as you mentioned the it is all handled by the bga framework code and you can't really influence that(to my limited developer knowledge)
imgur.com/QjEZTGQ
As to possible solutions:
If you can, 'award' a last place finish to the person who conceded, not tied with someone who actually finished the race. Using that feature is an acknowledgement that they are unable to make a better standing in the ending pole.
As for Tournaments, since those games are BGA fixed time limit games: if possible their remaining thinking time should be set to something super super negative at the resolution of the game. That way someone who conceded is ranked last when the standings are calculated by remaining thinking time. I was in a poorly set up Tournament a while ago and someone made some bad choices mixed with some bad luck and was left in the dust and decided to use the concede button. This froze their thinking time at 24hrs-ish and when the game hit the max time limit, they were considered the winner despite not even making it around the second corner of the first lap. If the editing of the remaining thinking time is not available, I think disabling the concede option for tournaments is your best course of action. I think this can be done with a backend game option that one does not have choice when setting up a tournament.
This result in wrong ELO calculations - the 3rd player is not the last, but gets the same ELO as the one who left.
It was turn-based tournament but I think it does not matter
boardgamearena.com/table?table=291614602
* Yes, it would seem that ties count for winning streaks but not for the first place trophy. It just looks odd.
I suspect it is due to the code which when there is only 1 car left on the board (normally when all players in front already finished and he is the last) dont let him cross the finish line, but give him last place. So when one player concede game (and his car is taken off the board), the player who is pre-last will have his care be the only one left on board when all in front crossed line, and game thinks "since he is the only car, he is last" :D
There is a real bug with conceded (not speaking abandon/quit by timeout) but when you are last player far away there a special button to leave the race
4 players, 2 last players conceded denysstupin then Nadec
i finish first and final order not good (Gnak must be 2nd)
thanks for reporting again. will look into this asap.
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- 按 F5 是否解决了这个问题？
- 问题是否发生了好几次？还是每次都发生？还是时好时坏？
- 如果你有这个系统漏洞发生时的屏幕截图(画质不要太差)，你可以使用Imgur.com来把它上传到网络，然后将链接复制/粘贴到这里来。
