#67415: "Number 5 never occurring while breaking safe"
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• 如果有的话，请将你在屏幕上所看到的错误信息粘贴出来.
The number 5 never occurs on the table while trying to break the level 1 safe. We are approaching 200 dice throws, and still no 5.
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• 请说明你当时想做什么，你做了什么，然后发生了什么
The dice ability to make a 5.
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Safari v15.4
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• 请以英文复制／粘贴显示文字而非你的语言。 如果你有这个系统漏洞发生时的屏幕截图(画质不要太差)，你可以使用Imgur.com来把它上传到网络，然后将链接复制/粘贴到这里来。
The number 5 never occurs on the table while trying to break the level 1 safe. We are approaching 200 dice throws, and still no 5.
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• 这段文本在翻译系统中吗？如果存在，它被翻译是否已超过二十四小时？
The dice ability to make a 5.
• 您正使用哪一款浏览器呢？
Safari v15.4
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• 请简明而精确地解释您的建议，以便让人明白您想表达的意思。
The number 5 never occurs on the table while trying to break the level 1 safe. We are approaching 200 dice throws, and still no 5.
• 您正使用哪一款浏览器呢？
Safari v15.4
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• 当你被封锁的时候，屏幕上出现了些什么呢？(空白的屏幕？部分游戏平台画面？错误的信息？)
The number 5 never occurs on the table while trying to break the level 1 safe. We are approaching 200 dice throws, and still no 5.
• 您正使用哪一款浏览器呢？
Safari v15.4
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• 哪个规则没有被BGA的设计小组写进游戏里？
The number 5 never occurs on the table while trying to break the level 1 safe. We are approaching 200 dice throws, and still no 5.
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• 在游戏回放中，是否有不符合游戏规则的地方？如果有的话，请问是在哪一步呢？
The dice ability to make a 5.
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Safari v15.4
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• 你当时是想做哪个游戏行动？
The number 5 never occurs on the table while trying to break the level 1 safe. We are approaching 200 dice throws, and still no 5.
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• 你在想做什么的时候，触发了这个游戏选项？
The dice ability to make a 5.
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• 当你想这么做时，发生了什么事(错误信息，游戏状态信息，......)？
• 您正使用哪一款浏览器呢？
Safari v15.4
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• 请问这个问题发生在游戏的哪个阶段(当前的游戏说明是什么)？
The number 5 never occurs on the table while trying to break the level 1 safe. We are approaching 200 dice throws, and still no 5.
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• 当你想进行一个游戏行动时，发生了什么事(错误信息，游戏状态信息，......)？
The dice ability to make a 5.
• 您正使用哪一款浏览器呢？
Safari v15.4
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• 请描述一下显示画面上面的问题。 如果你有这个系统漏洞发生时的屏幕截图(画质不要太差)，你可以使用Imgur.com来把它上传到网络，然后将链接复制/粘贴到这里来。
The number 5 never occurs on the table while trying to break the level 1 safe. We are approaching 200 dice throws, and still no 5.
• 您正使用哪一款浏览器呢？
Safari v15.4
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• 请以英文复制／粘贴显示文字而非你的语言。 如果你有这个系统漏洞发生时的屏幕截图(画质不要太差)，你可以使用Imgur.com来把它上传到网络，然后将链接复制/粘贴到这里来。
The number 5 never occurs on the table while trying to break the level 1 safe. We are approaching 200 dice throws, and still no 5.
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• 这段文本在翻译系统中吗？如果存在，它被翻译是否已超过二十四小时？
The dice ability to make a 5.
• 您正使用哪一款浏览器呢？
Safari v15.4
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• 请简明而精确地解释您的建议，以便让人明白您想表达的意思。
The number 5 never occurs on the table while trying to break the level 1 safe. We are approaching 200 dice throws, and still no 5.
• 您正使用哪一款浏览器呢？
Safari v15.4
案件历史
FYI, in case this helps… I was the advanced Peterman character. So I was adding and rolling safe dice from the floor below in-between turns where Zilch was rolling too. I would usually get an “unstable interface” toast notification (Chrome browser on Mac) on my first mouse click and then my second click would perform my special action to roll the safe dice.
Last night, while observing skriss' game, there were two issues noticed:
1) There were several instances of duplicate sets being rolled on 4 die. The sets looked something like this (pattern is correct but the numbers aren't exact):
2,1,6,4
2,1,6,4
Next turn:
4,5,2,1
4,5,2,1
6,2,4,2
6,2,4,2
This was the most egregious example that I remember but there were several other ones showing an issue. The odds of getting three consecutive pairs of matches like that on 4 die are astronomically low (it's (1/6)^12, or roughly 1 in 500,000,000)
From my experience developing other applications, this is probably caused by a new RNG object being created for every set of rolls. Doing this in quick succession creates the RNG objects with the same seed, causing them to generate the same set of numbers. This can be fixed by creating a single instance of the RNG that is used for the entire turn or a single instance used for the entire game.
2) Players would intermittently receive an error when rolling to open the safe (was on a Skype call with the players who discussed it there). I suspect that the correct number was actually being "rolled" but it generated the error when rolled. This was observed after using the Peterman's drill ability to open a safe on a different floor. It was only seen when attempting to get the last number of the safe but I don't remember if the other numbers were rolled before or after the first use of the Peterman's ability.
It's possible that this is the cause of issue 1 and that rolling the needed number caused the game to "fall back" to the previous set of rolls when the error was encountered.
Hopefully this helps. We've really enjoyed the game so far.
As I said, an error message occurred quite often, I believe it was when the die should have been 5 and the safe open, the bug probably comes from a bug happening when the safe opens.
On this bug:
boardgamearena.com/bug?id=42896
you said 'should be ok', so you doesn't seem to be sure and doesn't seem to have tested that.
Could there be that donuts are generated on that tile on that floor, the game doesn't like it, so don't allow that to happen and roll something else.
It appears that the two players rolled 215 times for the safe on floor 1. The results were 41 ones, 43 twos, 43 threes, 44 fours, 0 fives, and 44 sixes.
I think you have a bug and I think you owe everyone here an apology.
Here, the problem isn't the random, but something else.
But yeah that something is here: boardgamearena.com/bug?id=68285
2) And did you test with the advanced Peterman character? This is another common symptom.
Those are the 2 common reported symptoms. Please do your due diligence and test them. Instability bugs are always difficult to resolve, so I understand if you end up not being successful. But you have not provided sufficient evidence to call this 'notabug' at this point.
and for the record, i am a volunteer developer that doing this on my free time because i like the game and the spirit of BGA, insulting me or my work (or at least being rude) doesn't help at all ^^
and this is true for most of the games developed here
I think flakattack510 said it all.
Not able to roll a 1 -- my math professor partner in the game says we are up to 1 in 9 million chance.
Peterman's Drill being used along with "normal" attempts.
Getting lots and lots of "error processing database request" messages -- about as often as the chance of rolling a 1 on at least 1 of 4-5 dice.
Same bug, and Advanced Peterman is in the game. Although it occurs for either player, not just Advanced Peterman. We got no 1s, and frequently got the database error: "Unexpected error: Error while processing Database request (reference: GS9 25/07 22:52:36)". Presumably that error happened whenever we would have actually rolled a 1.
This was on the 3rd floor. No problems on floor 1 or floor 2. Floor 3 was when the Advanced Peterman started to Drill, and the error started when we were down to needing only 1 number.
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- 其他的游戏桌 ID / 移动 ID
- 按 F5 是否解决了这个问题？
- 问题是否发生了好几次？还是每次都发生？还是时好时坏？
- 如果你有这个系统漏洞发生时的屏幕截图(画质不要太差)，你可以使用Imgur.com来把它上传到网络，然后将链接复制/粘贴到这里来。
