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#628: "Hand size is updated before player's move is revealed"

confirmed: 漏洞已经被游戏开发者确认了

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2014年Apr22日 15:27 • fameros • 漏洞尚未被修复:

I have seen it happening many times now, systematically.

2016年Sep27日 16:28 • galehar • 漏洞尚未被修复:

This is an information leak and can indeed be confusing. Also, paying for cards should happen after the played cards are revealed.

2016年Oct21日 14:47 • demiurgsage • 漏洞尚未被修复:

Yes, I see this bug in every turn based game.

2016年Nov12日 12:56 • galehar • 漏洞尚未被修复:

The score is also updated before the card is revealed, which is further information leak.

2017年Sep10日 17:55 • gentil • 漏洞尚未被修复:

Absolutely agree, and in many games it has a big impact on play decisions ; military force is revealed as well

2018年Jul24日 11:27 • SPLAT • 漏洞尚未被修复:

This is an important bug to me and should be fixed. It can really change your decision, specially in the final round and this information should be hidden, not revealed. Not it benefits the 'slower' player and something like that should never be the case.

2018年Aug11日 12:33 • irakun • 漏洞尚未被修复:

Same as others said. Military, hand size and points are updated before the played card is revealed, thus it benefits the last player that chooses what to do...

2018年Dec25日 02:44 • Nerou • 漏洞尚未被修复:

With expansions also progress on goals is updated immediately. It seems that after refreshing a page values are pulled from latest state and not state at the beginning of a round.
en.1.boardgamearena.com/raceforthegalaxy?table=46505215 Just now I choose world to settle and it shows I have 3 cards played with explore power, but my 3rd card with explore power wasn't yet revealed to my opponents.

2020年Oct8日 18:24 • LumpySpring • 漏洞尚未被修复:

As others have said. Updating points etc before all players have chosen is (on occasion) game breaking. I'm surprised this is not higher up the priority list...
Screenshots of this in action (before and after the reveal): imgur.com/a/hvs77PE

2020年Dec18日 22:15 • Limdy • 漏洞尚未被修复:

I have same issue: You can see the updated victory points before cards are revealed. So you know that your opponent will play a high or low card and can change your decision.

2020年Dec19日 10:10 • Echsecutor • 漏洞尚未被修复:

reproduced (firefox)

2021年Jan20日 16:33 • galehar • 漏洞已经被游戏开发者确认了:

I plan to work on this at some point.

2021年Jan20日 16:33 • galehar • 漏洞已经被游戏开发者确认了:

I plan to work on this at some point.

2021年Jan26日 13:10 • Phoxtrot • 漏洞已经被游戏开发者确认了:

I don't think that delaying payment of the card is good, it would further slow the game and figuring out if someone can pay when there are multiple special cards around that can be used to reduce the cost if you discard some other cards would be error prone.

But yeah, essentially we need a temporary player specific context so that the actions of a player are done within a context and visible only to him/her until everyone has completed the sub-phase

The trick is that some simultaneous actions are impacting one another since you don't want multiple players to draw the same cards.

Another problem is the objectives tiles, for the sake of simplicity, players should not see the impact of their actions on them since this can be impacted by what other players are doing. At least for the 5 points objectives.

And takeovers are hard to tackle. They should be prepared simultaneously and as players end the colonization sub-phase they get resolved one by one (but all the impacts of newly played worlds or discarded developments has to be ignored). Though nut...

I think that the rules about which players have to draw first and all that is pretty much irrelevant and can be ignored. It might have an impact if you want to draw your cards after a reshuffle of the deck rather than before and vice-versa but that is very marginal especially if nobody knows if we are about the shuffle or not...

2021年Jan26日 13:11 • Phoxtrot • 漏洞已经被游戏开发者确认了:

update: even the 3 points objectives might be impacted by what other players are doing if there are takeovers involved.

2021年Jun8日 01:19 • Phelan • 漏洞已经被游戏开发者确认了:

This seems related to this bug: boardgamearena.com/bug?id=9497

2022年Aug9日 17:44 • Phoxtrot • 漏洞已经被游戏开发者确认了:

We still have many small timing problems with information. Some solved by a F5 but more are actually created by a refresh.

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