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#40416: "Player can move back and forth to avoid taking an event card"

wontfix: 此漏洞将不会被修复

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• 如果有的话，请将你在屏幕上所看到的错误信息粘贴出来.
Rules are explicitly say "You may not avoid drawing an Event card by simply moving back and forth between tiles", p. 5 here: s3.amazonaws.com/geekdo-files.com/bgg171703?response-content-disposition=inline%3B%20filename%3D%22BBRuleBook%5BMarkIII-v2.05%5D.pdf%22&response-content-type=application%2Fpdf&X-Amz-Content-Sha256=UNSIGNED-PAYLOAD&X-Amz-Algorithm=AWS4-HMAC-SHA256&X-Amz-Credential=AKIAJYFNCT7FKCE4O6TA%2F20210504%2Fus-east-1%2Fs3%2Faws4_request&X-Amz-Date=20210504T125034Z&X-Amz-SignedHeaders=host&X-Amz-Expires=120&X-Amz-Signature=cce17977a750bf98237603deed7223965a384c237937f65eb06300fc2bcca945
• 请说明你当时想做什么，你做了什么，然后发生了什么
I can find a move number if it's extremely needed
• 您正使用哪一款浏览器呢？
Google Chrome v90

• 请以英文复制／粘贴显示文字而非你的语言。如果你已截取此Bug的屏幕截图（好习惯），可使用任意图片托管服务（例如snipboard.io）上传后，将链接复制粘贴至此处。这段文本在翻译系统中吗？如果存在，它被翻译是否已超过二十四小时？
Rules are explicitly say "You may not avoid drawing an Event card by simply moving back and forth between tiles", p. 5 here: s3.amazonaws.com/geekdo-files.com/bgg171703?response-content-disposition=inline%3B%20filename%3D%22BBRuleBook%5BMarkIII-v2.05%5D.pdf%22&response-content-type=application%2Fpdf&X-Amz-Content-Sha256=UNSIGNED-PAYLOAD&X-Amz-Algorithm=AWS4-HMAC-SHA256&X-Amz-Credential=AKIAJYFNCT7FKCE4O6TA%2F20210504%2Fus-east-1%2Fs3%2Faws4_request&X-Amz-Date=20210504T125034Z&X-Amz-SignedHeaders=host&X-Amz-Expires=120&X-Amz-Signature=cce17977a750bf98237603deed7223965a384c237937f65eb06300fc2bcca945
• 您正使用哪一款浏览器呢？
Google Chrome v90

• 请简明而精确地解释您的建议，以便让人明白您想表达的意思。
Rules are explicitly say "You may not avoid drawing an Event card by simply moving back and forth between tiles", p. 5 here: s3.amazonaws.com/geekdo-files.com/bgg171703?response-content-disposition=inline%3B%20filename%3D%22BBRuleBook%5BMarkIII-v2.05%5D.pdf%22&response-content-type=application%2Fpdf&X-Amz-Content-Sha256=UNSIGNED-PAYLOAD&X-Amz-Algorithm=AWS4-HMAC-SHA256&X-Amz-Credential=AKIAJYFNCT7FKCE4O6TA%2F20210504%2Fus-east-1%2Fs3%2Faws4_request&X-Amz-Date=20210504T125034Z&X-Amz-SignedHeaders=host&X-Amz-Expires=120&X-Amz-Signature=cce17977a750bf98237603deed7223965a384c237937f65eb06300fc2bcca945
• 您正使用哪一款浏览器呢？
Google Chrome v90

• 当你被封锁的时候，屏幕上出现了些什么呢？(空白的屏幕？部分游戏平台画面？错误的信息？)
Rules are explicitly say "You may not avoid drawing an Event card by simply moving back and forth between tiles", p. 5 here: s3.amazonaws.com/geekdo-files.com/bgg171703?response-content-disposition=inline%3B%20filename%3D%22BBRuleBook%5BMarkIII-v2.05%5D.pdf%22&response-content-type=application%2Fpdf&X-Amz-Content-Sha256=UNSIGNED-PAYLOAD&X-Amz-Algorithm=AWS4-HMAC-SHA256&X-Amz-Credential=AKIAJYFNCT7FKCE4O6TA%2F20210504%2Fus-east-1%2Fs3%2Faws4_request&X-Amz-Date=20210504T125034Z&X-Amz-SignedHeaders=host&X-Amz-Expires=120&X-Amz-Signature=cce17977a750bf98237603deed7223965a384c237937f65eb06300fc2bcca945
• 您正使用哪一款浏览器呢？
Google Chrome v90

• 哪个规则没有被BGA的设计小组写进游戏里？
Rules are explicitly say "You may not avoid drawing an Event card by simply moving back and forth between tiles", p. 5 here: s3.amazonaws.com/geekdo-files.com/bgg171703?response-content-disposition=inline%3B%20filename%3D%22BBRuleBook%5BMarkIII-v2.05%5D.pdf%22&response-content-type=application%2Fpdf&X-Amz-Content-Sha256=UNSIGNED-PAYLOAD&X-Amz-Algorithm=AWS4-HMAC-SHA256&X-Amz-Credential=AKIAJYFNCT7FKCE4O6TA%2F20210504%2Fus-east-1%2Fs3%2Faws4_request&X-Amz-Date=20210504T125034Z&X-Amz-SignedHeaders=host&X-Amz-Expires=120&X-Amz-Signature=cce17977a750bf98237603deed7223965a384c237937f65eb06300fc2bcca945
• 在游戏回放中，是否有不符合游戏规则的地方？如果有的话，请问是在哪一步呢？
I can find a move number if it's extremely needed
• 您正使用哪一款浏览器呢？
Google Chrome v90

• 你当时是想做哪个游戏行动？
Rules are explicitly say "You may not avoid drawing an Event card by simply moving back and forth between tiles", p. 5 here: s3.amazonaws.com/geekdo-files.com/bgg171703?response-content-disposition=inline%3B%20filename%3D%22BBRuleBook%5BMarkIII-v2.05%5D.pdf%22&response-content-type=application%2Fpdf&X-Amz-Content-Sha256=UNSIGNED-PAYLOAD&X-Amz-Algorithm=AWS4-HMAC-SHA256&X-Amz-Credential=AKIAJYFNCT7FKCE4O6TA%2F20210504%2Fus-east-1%2Fs3%2Faws4_request&X-Amz-Date=20210504T125034Z&X-Amz-SignedHeaders=host&X-Amz-Expires=120&X-Amz-Signature=cce17977a750bf98237603deed7223965a384c237937f65eb06300fc2bcca945
• 你在想做什么的时候，触发了这个游戏选项？
I can find a move number if it's extremely needed
• 当你想这么做时，发生了什么事(错误信息，游戏状态信息，......)？
• 您正使用哪一款浏览器呢？
Google Chrome v90

• 请问这个问题发生在游戏的哪个阶段(当前的游戏说明是什么)？
Rules are explicitly say "You may not avoid drawing an Event card by simply moving back and forth between tiles", p. 5 here: s3.amazonaws.com/geekdo-files.com/bgg171703?response-content-disposition=inline%3B%20filename%3D%22BBRuleBook%5BMarkIII-v2.05%5D.pdf%22&response-content-type=application%2Fpdf&X-Amz-Content-Sha256=UNSIGNED-PAYLOAD&X-Amz-Algorithm=AWS4-HMAC-SHA256&X-Amz-Credential=AKIAJYFNCT7FKCE4O6TA%2F20210504%2Fus-east-1%2Fs3%2Faws4_request&X-Amz-Date=20210504T125034Z&X-Amz-SignedHeaders=host&X-Amz-Expires=120&X-Amz-Signature=cce17977a750bf98237603deed7223965a384c237937f65eb06300fc2bcca945
• 当你想进行一个游戏行动时，发生了什么事(错误信息，游戏状态信息，......)？
I can find a move number if it's extremely needed
• 您正使用哪一款浏览器呢？
Google Chrome v90

• 请描述一下显示画面上面的问题。如果你已截取此Bug的屏幕截图（好习惯），可使用任意图片托管服务（例如snipboard.io）上传后，将链接复制粘贴至此处。
Rules are explicitly say "You may not avoid drawing an Event card by simply moving back and forth between tiles", p. 5 here: s3.amazonaws.com/geekdo-files.com/bgg171703?response-content-disposition=inline%3B%20filename%3D%22BBRuleBook%5BMarkIII-v2.05%5D.pdf%22&response-content-type=application%2Fpdf&X-Amz-Content-Sha256=UNSIGNED-PAYLOAD&X-Amz-Algorithm=AWS4-HMAC-SHA256&X-Amz-Credential=AKIAJYFNCT7FKCE4O6TA%2F20210504%2Fus-east-1%2Fs3%2Faws4_request&X-Amz-Date=20210504T125034Z&X-Amz-SignedHeaders=host&X-Amz-Expires=120&X-Amz-Signature=cce17977a750bf98237603deed7223965a384c237937f65eb06300fc2bcca945
• 您正使用哪一款浏览器呢？
Google Chrome v90

• 请以英文复制／粘贴显示文字而非你的语言。如果你已截取此Bug的屏幕截图（好习惯），可使用任意图片托管服务（例如snipboard.io）上传后，将链接复制粘贴至此处。这段文本在翻译系统中吗？如果存在，它被翻译是否已超过二十四小时？
Rules are explicitly say "You may not avoid drawing an Event card by simply moving back and forth between tiles", p. 5 here: s3.amazonaws.com/geekdo-files.com/bgg171703?response-content-disposition=inline%3B%20filename%3D%22BBRuleBook%5BMarkIII-v2.05%5D.pdf%22&response-content-type=application%2Fpdf&X-Amz-Content-Sha256=UNSIGNED-PAYLOAD&X-Amz-Algorithm=AWS4-HMAC-SHA256&X-Amz-Credential=AKIAJYFNCT7FKCE4O6TA%2F20210504%2Fus-east-1%2Fs3%2Faws4_request&X-Amz-Date=20210504T125034Z&X-Amz-SignedHeaders=host&X-Amz-Expires=120&X-Amz-Signature=cce17977a750bf98237603deed7223965a384c237937f65eb06300fc2bcca945
• 您正使用哪一款浏览器呢？
Google Chrome v90

• 请简明而精确地解释您的建议，以便让人明白您想表达的意思。
Rules are explicitly say "You may not avoid drawing an Event card by simply moving back and forth between tiles", p. 5 here: s3.amazonaws.com/geekdo-files.com/bgg171703?response-content-disposition=inline%3B%20filename%3D%22BBRuleBook%5BMarkIII-v2.05%5D.pdf%22&response-content-type=application%2Fpdf&X-Amz-Content-Sha256=UNSIGNED-PAYLOAD&X-Amz-Algorithm=AWS4-HMAC-SHA256&X-Amz-Credential=AKIAJYFNCT7FKCE4O6TA%2F20210504%2Fus-east-1%2Fs3%2Faws4_request&X-Amz-Date=20210504T125034Z&X-Amz-SignedHeaders=host&X-Amz-Expires=120&X-Amz-Signature=cce17977a750bf98237603deed7223965a384c237937f65eb06300fc2bcca945
• 您正使用哪一款浏览器呢？
Google Chrome v90

案件历史

2021年May4日 14:55 • KuWizard • 漏洞尚未被修复:

I suggest to implement a check each time you move. If this move is a "move back without any changes on the board e.g. alarm was not triggered" - just add 1 action to the player rather than reducing actions to 1. So if players moves back and forth - their actions number is not reducing

2021年May10日 21:35 • Ad-Elie • 漏洞尚未被修复:

The link to the rule in french doesn't say that. Maybe this link should be removed ?

2021年May12日 07:47 • baritonehands • 此漏洞将不会被修复:

KuWizard's suggestion may work, but it may be difficult to determine for certain that the player is moving back and forth to avoid an event. There are many legitimate reasons a player might backtrack.

I don't think we should implement this for a few reasons:
* Some events are beneficial or have no effect, so you really shouldn't always try to avoid them
* The game is cooperative, so your fellow players should hold people accountable for breaking the rules (possibly have some way to affect reputation?)
* Implementation sounds simple, but may prove very difficult to handle all edge cases

2021年May12日 10:36 • KuWizard • 此漏洞将不会被修复:

Ehm... this is not how it works. You cannot decide if you should implement this or not. This is a rule. From a rulebook of a game you implement. If you decide not to fix this - the game differs from what BGA have license for. You're gonna have a review from publisher. Does publisher agree this rule is "meh" and could be ignored?

2021年May12日 10:38 • KuWizard • 此漏洞将不会被修复:

Sorry for the link. Unfortunately I can't edit my post but here it is: boardgamegeek.com/file/download_redirect/9faa9fced7579990e58c80e431f8e32454a8c3f4cd7ddc3b/BBRuleBook%5BMarkIII-v2.05%5D.pdf

2021年May14日 07:34 • N_Faker • 此漏洞将不会被修复:

If the implementation allows the circumvention of this rule, players will exploit it. That is pretty much a given.

2025年Jun30日 14:22 • Popelop • 此漏洞将不会被修复:

a simple text reminder at the beginning of each game would be super easy to implement and would help the players trying to respect the rules to convince the others that BGA dont "let them do" it so it is ok

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如果你已截取此Bug的屏幕截图（好习惯），可使用任意图片托管服务（例如snipboard.io）上传后，将链接复制粘贴至此处。

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#40416: "Player can move back and forth to avoid taking an event card"

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