#39387: "Add an undo button (or a checkbox to prompt for undo)"
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• 如果有的话，请将你在屏幕上所看到的错误信息粘贴出来.
Apologies if this was covered in a previous post (but I did not see one).
It would be great to have an undo button available, due to certain actions requiring multiple steps. It happens occasionally that I'll have misplanned the full sequence of actions and would like to try something different instead. I know these aren't easy to code, but would love to see it for this game.
Some games like Teotihuacan have a checkbox to confirm whether to prompt for undo, that could be useful as well.
Thanks. -
• 请说明你当时想做什么，你做了什么，然后发生了什么
• 您正使用哪一款浏览器呢？
Google Chrome v86
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• 请以英文复制／粘贴显示文字而非你的语言。 如果你有这个系统漏洞发生时的屏幕截图(画质不要太差)，你可以使用Imgur.com来把它上传到网络，然后将链接复制/粘贴到这里来。
Apologies if this was covered in a previous post (but I did not see one).
It would be great to have an undo button available, due to certain actions requiring multiple steps. It happens occasionally that I'll have misplanned the full sequence of actions and would like to try something different instead. I know these aren't easy to code, but would love to see it for this game.
Some games like Teotihuacan have a checkbox to confirm whether to prompt for undo, that could be useful as well.
Thanks. -
• 这段文本在翻译系统中吗？如果存在，它被翻译是否已超过二十四小时？
• 您正使用哪一款浏览器呢？
Google Chrome v86
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• 请简明而精确地解释您的建议，以便让人明白您想表达的意思。
Apologies if this was covered in a previous post (but I did not see one).
It would be great to have an undo button available, due to certain actions requiring multiple steps. It happens occasionally that I'll have misplanned the full sequence of actions and would like to try something different instead. I know these aren't easy to code, but would love to see it for this game.
Some games like Teotihuacan have a checkbox to confirm whether to prompt for undo, that could be useful as well.
Thanks. • 您正使用哪一款浏览器呢？
Google Chrome v86
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• 当你被封锁的时候，屏幕上出现了些什么呢？(空白的屏幕？部分游戏平台画面？错误的信息？)
Apologies if this was covered in a previous post (but I did not see one).
It would be great to have an undo button available, due to certain actions requiring multiple steps. It happens occasionally that I'll have misplanned the full sequence of actions and would like to try something different instead. I know these aren't easy to code, but would love to see it for this game.
Some games like Teotihuacan have a checkbox to confirm whether to prompt for undo, that could be useful as well.
Thanks. • 您正使用哪一款浏览器呢？
Google Chrome v86
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• 哪个规则没有被BGA的设计小组写进游戏里？
Apologies if this was covered in a previous post (but I did not see one).
It would be great to have an undo button available, due to certain actions requiring multiple steps. It happens occasionally that I'll have misplanned the full sequence of actions and would like to try something different instead. I know these aren't easy to code, but would love to see it for this game.
Some games like Teotihuacan have a checkbox to confirm whether to prompt for undo, that could be useful as well.
Thanks. -
• 在游戏回放中，是否有不符合游戏规则的地方？如果有的话，请问是在哪一步呢？
• 您正使用哪一款浏览器呢？
Google Chrome v86
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• 你当时是想做哪个游戏行动？
Apologies if this was covered in a previous post (but I did not see one).
It would be great to have an undo button available, due to certain actions requiring multiple steps. It happens occasionally that I'll have misplanned the full sequence of actions and would like to try something different instead. I know these aren't easy to code, but would love to see it for this game.
Some games like Teotihuacan have a checkbox to confirm whether to prompt for undo, that could be useful as well.
Thanks. -
• 你在想做什么的时候，触发了这个游戏选项？
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• 当你想这么做时，发生了什么事(错误信息，游戏状态信息，......)？
• 您正使用哪一款浏览器呢？
Google Chrome v86
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• 请问这个问题发生在游戏的哪个阶段(当前的游戏说明是什么)？
Apologies if this was covered in a previous post (but I did not see one).
It would be great to have an undo button available, due to certain actions requiring multiple steps. It happens occasionally that I'll have misplanned the full sequence of actions and would like to try something different instead. I know these aren't easy to code, but would love to see it for this game.
Some games like Teotihuacan have a checkbox to confirm whether to prompt for undo, that could be useful as well.
Thanks. -
• 当你想进行一个游戏行动时，发生了什么事(错误信息，游戏状态信息，......)？
• 您正使用哪一款浏览器呢？
Google Chrome v86
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• 请描述一下显示画面上面的问题。 如果你有这个系统漏洞发生时的屏幕截图(画质不要太差)，你可以使用Imgur.com来把它上传到网络，然后将链接复制/粘贴到这里来。
Apologies if this was covered in a previous post (but I did not see one).
It would be great to have an undo button available, due to certain actions requiring multiple steps. It happens occasionally that I'll have misplanned the full sequence of actions and would like to try something different instead. I know these aren't easy to code, but would love to see it for this game.
Some games like Teotihuacan have a checkbox to confirm whether to prompt for undo, that could be useful as well.
Thanks. • 您正使用哪一款浏览器呢？
Google Chrome v86
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• 请以英文复制／粘贴显示文字而非你的语言。 如果你有这个系统漏洞发生时的屏幕截图(画质不要太差)，你可以使用Imgur.com来把它上传到网络，然后将链接复制/粘贴到这里来。
Apologies if this was covered in a previous post (but I did not see one).
It would be great to have an undo button available, due to certain actions requiring multiple steps. It happens occasionally that I'll have misplanned the full sequence of actions and would like to try something different instead. I know these aren't easy to code, but would love to see it for this game.
Some games like Teotihuacan have a checkbox to confirm whether to prompt for undo, that could be useful as well.
Thanks. -
• 这段文本在翻译系统中吗？如果存在，它被翻译是否已超过二十四小时？
• 您正使用哪一款浏览器呢？
Google Chrome v86
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• 请简明而精确地解释您的建议，以便让人明白您想表达的意思。
Apologies if this was covered in a previous post (but I did not see one).
It would be great to have an undo button available, due to certain actions requiring multiple steps. It happens occasionally that I'll have misplanned the full sequence of actions and would like to try something different instead. I know these aren't easy to code, but would love to see it for this game.
Some games like Teotihuacan have a checkbox to confirm whether to prompt for undo, that could be useful as well.
Thanks. • 您正使用哪一款浏览器呢？
Google Chrome v86
案件历史
Is this not relevant anymore? Or could anyone please suggest a series of steps which cannot be undone at "Confirm Turn" step?
KuWizard, know that people who comment or thumb up this suggestion will not have seen your comment above unless they come back to this page, which for some is 4 years with no movement. They'll only receive an email notification when the status changes. Anyway, this feature would be a big improvement for the game.
Regarding email notifications - from my experience I was always receiving emails once I commented (not sure about thumbs up) any bug in any game. I am surprised it's not working for everyone... and actually I changed the status of this suggestion to "inforequest" so again, everyone commented should have received it :)
boardgamearena.com/9/viticulture?table=720893428&replayFrom=75
I would say in this specific case the confirmation popup would be better saying "No other player has any wine so you won't get 2 VP, are you sure?". However if this was the only wine in the game, shouldn't you gain 2 VP?
As I see it, you click "Confirm" after each single action in the multiple-actions queue and then, after everything is ok, you'll enter another new state with buttons "Confirm turn" and "Undo". Wouldn't multiple confirmations annoy players?
(Also, the above yoke complaint isn't accurate, and the current implementation is correct there as per the rules linked in the game description. Essential edition rules, P. 12: "On their turn, a player may place a regular worker (or a grande worker acting as a regular worker) on their yoke to uproot 1 vine card (return a vine card from their field to their hand) or harvest 1 field (even in the summer), though the field may only be harvested once per year.")
Thanks for the detailed answer, @AndrewBucholtz!
And you're welcome but I think you're still to see my hard work ;)
The comment "there is a 'Confirm turn' button when you do most of the common actions" - I do not believe I have seen this before. When you have to make a choice the game asks you, but that is not an undo. Once you have made your choice, it ends your turn and moves on to the next player.
For example, when making 2 or 3 wines, we currently confirm after each wine. Instead, if a player could lay out all the wines they want to make at the same time, then confirm, that would be helpful for visualizing and functionally the same as having an undo.
I just saw this post update this evening and I have to say I'm quite impressed that a 4-years old beloved game like Viticulture is finally getting bug fixes!
I agree that Undo is an essential feature to be had, especially if there is no new information provided. Undo should not be possible after card draws. Undo should also not be possible for actions requiring others cooperation as well(Banker, Swindler, Handyman, etc.). But undo should be possible for every other thing.
One example I had recently is when playing the winter visitor Zymologyst. I had 2,3 red grape and 3,4 white grape. I have a wine order for a 3 white and 7 sparkling. With the Zymologist I mistakenly use my 2,3-red and 4-white token to create a sparkling-9, and I cannot make the 3-white because I did not realize that Zymologist needed the wine made with a minimum value of 4. I ended up using another worker to create that 3-white wine and has to fill order the next year instead because all my worker are exhausted that year.
Granted, I still won the game (lucky me) but with the undo feature, I can realize earlier that Zymologist cannot create the 3-white wine, and may do things differently to end the game faster (I have another winter visitor to make wine). It's a small mistake, but it can cost the game.
That is just one example, but I think there are a lot of other implementations that may be similar. Thank you for your attention on this matter, and I'm looking forward to an enhanced version of Viticulture with undo on BGA!
Sincerely,
Strollingstar
Thanks a lot for sharing your experience! That really helps. And yeah, thanks to Jamie Stegmaier Viticulture got some financing and therefore some dev hours :)
This game seems particularly sensitive especially while playing the mobile version to grab ahold of unintended interaction while zooming or scrolling that results in game action and cannot be undone. An undo button would be very helpful or confirming your turn. On multiple occasions I have lost a game because I was unable to undo. For example, with 3 workers in the second to last year, I was accidentally passed without harvesting or fulfilling orders that could have been. I was then in competitive and disengaged from play.
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- 其他的游戏桌 ID / 移动 ID
- 按 F5 是否解决了这个问题？
- 问题是否发生了好几次？还是每次都发生？还是时好时坏？
- 如果你有这个系统漏洞发生时的屏幕截图(画质不要太差)，你可以使用Imgur.com来把它上传到网络，然后将链接复制/粘贴到这里来。
