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#37289: "fear 2 don't respect the new fear rule"

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2021年Mar26日 13:23 • Bwaaaane • 漏洞尚未被修复:

ras

2021年Mar29日 23:32 • Thagor • 漏洞尚未被修复:

Happened again in game boardgamearena.com/table?table=159740006, action #145

2021年Apr5日 01:26 • Toooomm • 漏洞尚未被修复:

No bug here.

2021年Apr5日 03:26 • Thagor • 漏洞尚未被修复:

What do you mean no bug? The new rules released by Mythic a month ago (March 9th to be precise) clearly states that each step of the fear has to get away from the source. Currently, it is not happening on BGA. BGA follows the old rules. We have countless examples, like the two posted here.

If you want to see the new rules, check yourself : www.dropbox.com/s/h4lxt7fp0ud83ru/SFB_RULES_RETAIL_EN.pdf?dl=0

Page 7, you got the rule about "moving away", then page 15 you have the definition of Fear, where it says you have to Dash away, Dash being a movement. So Fear has to follow the "moving away" rule.

2021年Apr5日 13:27 • Toooomm • 漏洞尚未被修复:

New rule of fear : "... If multiple choices are available, the Champion must choose the one that takes them
the furthest away from the source of the Fear, moving the maximum Dash value they possibly can"

So basicaly in your exemple "the Maximum Dash value" has only 1 possiblity. Every other case make you dash only 1 hex.
See with image : imgur.com/a/tFGbyi8

2021年Apr5日 15:25 • Merle • 漏洞尚未被修复:

Thagor is rigth.

In the new rules:
§ Towards and Away (p.7)
"When an effect instructs a Champion to moveawayfrom a game element, each step should increase the distance between the Champion and the game ele-ment. If this is not possible,the Champion will not move."

§ FEAR X (p.15)
"If an Action or Reaction applies Fear, the Champion who suffered the Fear effect must Dash Xin a direction of their choice, as long as it is away from the source of the Fear. If multiple choices are available, the Champion must choose the one that takes them the furthest away from the source of the Fear, moving the maximum Dash value they possibly can."

@Tooooomm : when it comes to rules, Thagor is usually 99.99% accurate ;)

2021年Apr5日 15:28 • Code 47 • 漏洞尚未被修复:

@merle
alright, so where should Akhet have dashed 2 in this exemple ? Because rule says it cannot dash only 1.

2021年Apr5日 15:43 • Merle • 漏洞尚未被修复:

"moving the maximum Dash value they possibly can." means 1 hex only, either 3'o clock, 5h o'clock or 7'o clock here.
Because a second hex here won't increase the distance between Alistair & Akhet, so Akhet can't "move away" any further (1 to 2, then ? 2 to... 2 ?).

First hex needs to increase distance (move away rule) then an another hex can't "move away" since the distance stays 2 in all the ways + (I think) you can't break a dash 2 in dash 1/dash1.

Dash X rules p.15
"A Dash is a straight-line movement of up to X spaces where the dashing Champion must stay in the same hex row of the hex grid."
=> "up to X spaces" is important there.

2021年Apr5日 15:49 • Merle • 漏洞尚未被修复:

In easier words, Fear X is always as if the source uses a shotgun now. If Fear X isn't possible, then try Fear X-1, and so on.

2021年Apr5日 16:07 • Toooomm • 漏洞尚未被修复:

Oh, so everything depends on the rules priority there.
Either the priority is to Dash 2 as in "moving the maximum Dash value they possibly can", or the priority is "move away" rule.
I have to admit that if you compare this mechanic to the fear in real life, if you want to get away from something, you dont move just next to it :D

2021年Apr7日 11:29 • hvg3akaek • 漏洞尚未被修复:

happened here, too:

boardgamearena.com/9/superfantasybrawl?table=161423079&replayFrom=211

2021年Apr12日 13:30 • Mistergos • 本案件已由工作室的奖励猎人宣告解决，需要进一步检查及实装:

claimed

2021年Apr12日 14:43 • Mistergos • 漏洞已修复:

fixed

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