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#22930: " having all but 1 player be Losers keeps the ELO quite low for all but 1 player..."
#22930: " having all but 1 player be Losers keeps the ELO quite low for all but 1 player..."
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Finding a solution for scoring 2nd, 3rd, etc. would be more in line with all the other games on the site• 您正使用哪一款浏览器呢?
Mozilla v5
• 当你被封锁的时候,屏幕上出现了些什么呢?(空白的屏幕?部分游戏平台画面?错误的信息?)
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• 哪个规则没有被BGA的设计小组写进游戏里?
Finding a solution for scoring 2nd, 3rd, etc. would be more in line with all the other games on the site• 在游戏回放中,是否有不符合游戏规则的地方?如果有的话,请问是在哪一步呢?
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• 请简明而精确地解释您的建议,以便让人明白您想表达的意思。
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案件历史
2020年8月21日 1:06 • SteveV • 此建议尚未被开发者分析过:
I understand that this may be the intent of the original game, but since (nearly?) all of the games on BGA have 1st-nth scoring and ELO scaled as you move down the list ...
also, I understand that the ELO system may not be ideal (here or elsewhere), but since it's the system of use at the moment...
also, I understand that the ELO system may not be ideal (here or elsewhere), but since it's the system of use at the moment...
2020年8月21日 5:12 • quietmint • 此建议尚未被开发者分析过:
See the discussion at forum.boardgamearena.com/viewtopic.php?t=13193
I'm fine with ranking first, second, third, etc. in cases where the game finishes "normally" (e.g., the rare case where you run out of tiles). But as I said in that post, I still do not believe it's correct or fair to apply the same ranking method when the game finishes "early" (e.g., the most common case where someone places enough buildings). You can't determine who is second-closest, third-closest to an "early" ending.
I'm fine with ranking first, second, third, etc. in cases where the game finishes "normally" (e.g., the rare case where you run out of tiles). But as I said in that post, I still do not believe it's correct or fair to apply the same ranking method when the game finishes "early" (e.g., the most common case where someone places enough buildings). You can't determine who is second-closest, third-closest to an "early" ending.
2020年8月22日 23:19 • quietmint • 此建议已获实施:
Version 200822-2312: A partial tie breaker has been implemented. If the game ends "normally" (out of volcano tiles), non-eliminated players are ranked based on buildings. If the game ends "early" (someone builds all of two types), non-eliminated players all tie.
In both cases, however, elimination order is always used as a tie breaker -- the first player eliminated always ranks last, the second eliminated always ranks second-to-last, etc.
In both cases, however, elimination order is always used as a tie breaker -- the first player eliminated always ranks last, the second eliminated always ranks second-to-last, etc.
2020年8月23日 17:40 • quietmint • 此建议已获实施:
Version 200823-1736: The scoring is now displayed in real-time.
2023年11月26日 20:25 • Joe Hotson • 此建议已获实施:
This hasn't been fully resolved. Now, if a game ends "early", all players tie 2nd. However, the ELO calculation penalises players for not "winning" against those with a lower rank, even if they only actually lost to one player with a much higher rank.
2023年11月26日 21:07 • quietmint • 此建议已获实施:
No bug here. There's no way to determine a rank order when the game ends "early", so the current behavior of making all losers tie is correct. (There's no way to tell who is "closer" to triggering an early ending.)
ELO calculation is done by BGA and not specific to the Taluva game. Yes, you will lose ELO points if you don't win against a weaker player you were expected to beat.
ELO calculation is done by BGA and not specific to the Taluva game. Yes, you will lose ELO points if you don't win against a weaker player you were expected to beat.
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