#167071: "Colonoies: Order of operations wrong when trading on Pluto."
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• 如果有的话，请将你在屏幕上所看到的错误信息粘贴出来.
When a player trades at Pluto, gets an option to draw cards from pluto (trading bonus) and to draw and discard a card (colony bonus) for themselves and other players. Rule is that active player chooses an order of operations. What happens here is that opponent gets to chose the order of operations which is against the rules! Non-active player cannot decide anything.
Even if the active players clicks Whatever, then it must make automatic selection of order of operations and not that the opponent then can choose. -
• 请说明你当时想做什么，你做了什么，然后发生了什么
413
• 您正使用哪一款浏览器呢？
Opera 118.0.5461.41
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• 请以英文复制／粘贴显示文字而非你的语言。 如果你有这个系统漏洞发生时的屏幕截图(画质不要太差)，你可以使用Imgur.com来把它上传到网络，然后将链接复制/粘贴到这里来。
When a player trades at Pluto, gets an option to draw cards from pluto (trading bonus) and to draw and discard a card (colony bonus) for themselves and other players. Rule is that active player chooses an order of operations. What happens here is that opponent gets to chose the order of operations which is against the rules! Non-active player cannot decide anything.
Even if the active players clicks Whatever, then it must make automatic selection of order of operations and not that the opponent then can choose. -
• 这段文本在翻译系统中吗？如果存在，它被翻译是否已超过二十四小时？
413
• 您正使用哪一款浏览器呢？
Opera 118.0.5461.41
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• 请简明而精确地解释您的建议，以便让人明白您想表达的意思。
When a player trades at Pluto, gets an option to draw cards from pluto (trading bonus) and to draw and discard a card (colony bonus) for themselves and other players. Rule is that active player chooses an order of operations. What happens here is that opponent gets to chose the order of operations which is against the rules! Non-active player cannot decide anything.
Even if the active players clicks Whatever, then it must make automatic selection of order of operations and not that the opponent then can choose. • 您正使用哪一款浏览器呢？
Opera 118.0.5461.41
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• 当你被封锁的时候，屏幕上出现了些什么呢？(空白的屏幕？部分游戏平台画面？错误的信息？)
When a player trades at Pluto, gets an option to draw cards from pluto (trading bonus) and to draw and discard a card (colony bonus) for themselves and other players. Rule is that active player chooses an order of operations. What happens here is that opponent gets to chose the order of operations which is against the rules! Non-active player cannot decide anything.
Even if the active players clicks Whatever, then it must make automatic selection of order of operations and not that the opponent then can choose. • 您正使用哪一款浏览器呢？
Opera 118.0.5461.41
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• 哪个规则没有被BGA的设计小组写进游戏里？
When a player trades at Pluto, gets an option to draw cards from pluto (trading bonus) and to draw and discard a card (colony bonus) for themselves and other players. Rule is that active player chooses an order of operations. What happens here is that opponent gets to chose the order of operations which is against the rules! Non-active player cannot decide anything.
Even if the active players clicks Whatever, then it must make automatic selection of order of operations and not that the opponent then can choose. -
• 在游戏回放中，是否有不符合游戏规则的地方？如果有的话，请问是在哪一步呢？
413
• 您正使用哪一款浏览器呢？
Opera 118.0.5461.41
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• 你当时是想做哪个游戏行动？
When a player trades at Pluto, gets an option to draw cards from pluto (trading bonus) and to draw and discard a card (colony bonus) for themselves and other players. Rule is that active player chooses an order of operations. What happens here is that opponent gets to chose the order of operations which is against the rules! Non-active player cannot decide anything.
Even if the active players clicks Whatever, then it must make automatic selection of order of operations and not that the opponent then can choose. -
• 你在想做什么的时候，触发了这个游戏选项？
413
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• 当你想这么做时，发生了什么事(错误信息，游戏状态信息，......)？
• 您正使用哪一款浏览器呢？
Opera 118.0.5461.41
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• 请问这个问题发生在游戏的哪个阶段(当前的游戏说明是什么)？
When a player trades at Pluto, gets an option to draw cards from pluto (trading bonus) and to draw and discard a card (colony bonus) for themselves and other players. Rule is that active player chooses an order of operations. What happens here is that opponent gets to chose the order of operations which is against the rules! Non-active player cannot decide anything.
Even if the active players clicks Whatever, then it must make automatic selection of order of operations and not that the opponent then can choose. -
• 当你想进行一个游戏行动时，发生了什么事(错误信息，游戏状态信息，......)？
413
• 您正使用哪一款浏览器呢？
Opera 118.0.5461.41
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• 请描述一下显示画面上面的问题。 如果你有这个系统漏洞发生时的屏幕截图(画质不要太差)，你可以使用Imgur.com来把它上传到网络，然后将链接复制/粘贴到这里来。
When a player trades at Pluto, gets an option to draw cards from pluto (trading bonus) and to draw and discard a card (colony bonus) for themselves and other players. Rule is that active player chooses an order of operations. What happens here is that opponent gets to chose the order of operations which is against the rules! Non-active player cannot decide anything.
Even if the active players clicks Whatever, then it must make automatic selection of order of operations and not that the opponent then can choose. • 您正使用哪一款浏览器呢？
Opera 118.0.5461.41
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• 请以英文复制／粘贴显示文字而非你的语言。 如果你有这个系统漏洞发生时的屏幕截图(画质不要太差)，你可以使用Imgur.com来把它上传到网络，然后将链接复制/粘贴到这里来。
When a player trades at Pluto, gets an option to draw cards from pluto (trading bonus) and to draw and discard a card (colony bonus) for themselves and other players. Rule is that active player chooses an order of operations. What happens here is that opponent gets to chose the order of operations which is against the rules! Non-active player cannot decide anything.
Even if the active players clicks Whatever, then it must make automatic selection of order of operations and not that the opponent then can choose. -
• 这段文本在翻译系统中吗？如果存在，它被翻译是否已超过二十四小时？
413
• 您正使用哪一款浏览器呢？
Opera 118.0.5461.41
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• 请简明而精确地解释您的建议，以便让人明白您想表达的意思。
When a player trades at Pluto, gets an option to draw cards from pluto (trading bonus) and to draw and discard a card (colony bonus) for themselves and other players. Rule is that active player chooses an order of operations. What happens here is that opponent gets to chose the order of operations which is against the rules! Non-active player cannot decide anything.
Even if the active players clicks Whatever, then it must make automatic selection of order of operations and not that the opponent then can choose. • 您正使用哪一款浏览器呢？
Opera 118.0.5461.41
案件历史
Opponent first drew his trade bonus (move 412). Not sure if they clicked on that option or Whatever button.
screenshot: imgur.com/a/jTWHUUn
The same happened to me at table 663278761. Opponenent said he clicked on Draw cards (trade bonus) and after he drew them, the selection automatically jumped to me.
boardgamearena.com/table?table=663278761
Quite annoying TBH.
I.e. main player chose order of operation which also chooses when other player draw. But all discards of other plalyer are queue up at the end of that player action
Also I made colony bonus non optional (i.e. draw->discard is not optional you have to take it)
With 2 colonies on Pluto, I now get both of my draws before my discards. This is wrong. I must draw first, discard after, then draw again and discard after. I may not see the 2nd card before deciding what to discard. This makes multiple Pluto colonies even stronger.
Another thing, didn't experience pluto trading as active player yet, but as non-active yes, in two games and it is now very confusing. Basically you come to game where there is your turn. And you are asked to discard a card. You got a card automatically, but you are not really notified about that (except the log of course), so you might not notice a new card and wonder why you should just discard.
What is even worse, when you come to game where there is your turn, you automatically expect you are going to play a card. So we are getting into very dangerous situation, where people think they are playing a card, but in fact you are discarding it! I know it is written on the top what action you are doing, but since you didn't trigger it in any way (unlike Mars University), then it is very tricky and it will cause a lot of troubles, especially in turn based games.
For any player who received a new card during someone else's Pluto trade - a popup button that says, "you received a new card from Pluto. Confirm and then discard one card" that must actually be clicked before the discard can be selected?
Then I have to hit the button (no "skip" shenanigans as before) and then I draw and must immediately discard.
This removes all the problems.
增加一些新内容到这篇报告
- 其他的游戏桌 ID / 移动 ID
- 按 F5 是否解决了这个问题？
- 问题是否发生了好几次？还是每次都发生？还是时好时坏？
- 如果你有这个系统漏洞发生时的屏幕截图(画质不要太差)，你可以使用Imgur.com来把它上传到网络，然后将链接复制/粘贴到这里来。
