#161133: "Didn't agree about dead stones, resumed play, then game didn't count dead stones."
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• 如果有的话,请将你在屏幕上所看到的错误信息粘贴出来.
Table #642822106
Have the game count the dead stones to give the proper score to both players. -
• 请说明你当时想做什么,你做了什么,然后发生了什么
My opponent and I didn't agree about the marking of dead stones, so we resumed play. My opponent selected "No" to the question, "Do you want to have a stage of designate dead stones after next series of passes?" He was losing, and by selecting "no", he almost won the game, as the game didn't mark the dead stones, and didn't give my the resulting 36 points I should have received.
I only won because I was far enough ahead in points. However, Go is usually so close in score that every point makes a huge difference. This prevents people from playing by the rules. • 您正使用哪一款浏览器呢?
Firefox v133.0.3
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• 请以英文复制/粘贴显示文字而非你的语言。 如果你有这个系统漏洞发生时的屏幕截图(画质不要太差),你可以使用Imgur.com来把它上传到网络,然后将链接复制/粘贴到这里来。
Table #642822106
Have the game count the dead stones to give the proper score to both players. -
• 这段文本在翻译系统中吗?如果存在,它被翻译是否已超过二十四小时?
My opponent and I didn't agree about the marking of dead stones, so we resumed play. My opponent selected "No" to the question, "Do you want to have a stage of designate dead stones after next series of passes?" He was losing, and by selecting "no", he almost won the game, as the game didn't mark the dead stones, and didn't give my the resulting 36 points I should have received.
I only won because I was far enough ahead in points. However, Go is usually so close in score that every point makes a huge difference. This prevents people from playing by the rules. • 您正使用哪一款浏览器呢?
Firefox v133.0.3
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• 请简明而精确地解释您的建议,以便让人明白您想表达的意思。
Table #642822106
Have the game count the dead stones to give the proper score to both players. • 您正使用哪一款浏览器呢?
Firefox v133.0.3
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• 当你被封锁的时候,屏幕上出现了些什么呢?(空白的屏幕?部分游戏平台画面?错误的信息?)
Table #642822106
Have the game count the dead stones to give the proper score to both players. • 您正使用哪一款浏览器呢?
Firefox v133.0.3
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• 哪个规则没有被BGA的设计小组写进游戏里?
Table #642822106
Have the game count the dead stones to give the proper score to both players. -
• 在游戏回放中,是否有不符合游戏规则的地方?如果有的话,请问是在哪一步呢?
My opponent and I didn't agree about the marking of dead stones, so we resumed play. My opponent selected "No" to the question, "Do you want to have a stage of designate dead stones after next series of passes?" He was losing, and by selecting "no", he almost won the game, as the game didn't mark the dead stones, and didn't give my the resulting 36 points I should have received.
I only won because I was far enough ahead in points. However, Go is usually so close in score that every point makes a huge difference. This prevents people from playing by the rules. • 您正使用哪一款浏览器呢?
Firefox v133.0.3
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• 你当时是想做哪个游戏行动?
Table #642822106
Have the game count the dead stones to give the proper score to both players. -
• 你在想做什么的时候,触发了这个游戏选项?
My opponent and I didn't agree about the marking of dead stones, so we resumed play. My opponent selected "No" to the question, "Do you want to have a stage of designate dead stones after next series of passes?" He was losing, and by selecting "no", he almost won the game, as the game didn't mark the dead stones, and didn't give my the resulting 36 points I should have received.
I only won because I was far enough ahead in points. However, Go is usually so close in score that every point makes a huge difference. This prevents people from playing by the rules. -
• 当你想这么做时,发生了什么事(错误信息,游戏状态信息,......)?
No errors, the game simply ended without allowing use to mark the dead stones. The game didn't identify the dead stones correctly, and didn't even ask if we agreed with the counting result. As several stones were not marked as dead, I lost the stones and the territory they were in.
In my recent table, #642822106, my opponent selected "No" to the question, "Do you want to have a stage of designate dead stones after next series of passes?", which almost cost me the game. This violates the rules of the game. • 您正使用哪一款浏览器呢?
Firefox v133.0.3
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• 请问这个问题发生在游戏的哪个阶段(当前的游戏说明是什么)?
Table #642822106
Have the game count the dead stones to give the proper score to both players. -
• 当你想进行一个游戏行动时,发生了什么事(错误信息,游戏状态信息,......)?
My opponent and I didn't agree about the marking of dead stones, so we resumed play. My opponent selected "No" to the question, "Do you want to have a stage of designate dead stones after next series of passes?" He was losing, and by selecting "no", he almost won the game, as the game didn't mark the dead stones, and didn't give my the resulting 36 points I should have received.
I only won because I was far enough ahead in points. However, Go is usually so close in score that every point makes a huge difference. This prevents people from playing by the rules. • 您正使用哪一款浏览器呢?
Firefox v133.0.3
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• 请描述一下显示画面上面的问题。 如果你有这个系统漏洞发生时的屏幕截图(画质不要太差),你可以使用Imgur.com来把它上传到网络,然后将链接复制/粘贴到这里来。
Table #642822106
Have the game count the dead stones to give the proper score to both players. • 您正使用哪一款浏览器呢?
Firefox v133.0.3
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• 请以英文复制/粘贴显示文字而非你的语言。 如果你有这个系统漏洞发生时的屏幕截图(画质不要太差),你可以使用Imgur.com来把它上传到网络,然后将链接复制/粘贴到这里来。
Table #642822106
Have the game count the dead stones to give the proper score to both players. -
• 这段文本在翻译系统中吗?如果存在,它被翻译是否已超过二十四小时?
My opponent and I didn't agree about the marking of dead stones, so we resumed play. My opponent selected "No" to the question, "Do you want to have a stage of designate dead stones after next series of passes?" He was losing, and by selecting "no", he almost won the game, as the game didn't mark the dead stones, and didn't give my the resulting 36 points I should have received.
I only won because I was far enough ahead in points. However, Go is usually so close in score that every point makes a huge difference. This prevents people from playing by the rules. • 您正使用哪一款浏览器呢?
Firefox v133.0.3
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• 请简明而精确地解释您的建议,以便让人明白您想表达的意思。
Table #642822106
Have the game count the dead stones to give the proper score to both players. • 您正使用哪一款浏览器呢?
Firefox v133.0.3
案件历史
imgur.com/a/olkcuJm
In bug ID #14642, this problem is marked as fixed, but it actually doesn't fix anything. Rather, it only allows for cheating to continue happening.
This is still happening. Because of my first experience with this, I managed to save my game in this way:
My opponent & I passed. My opponent refused to mark the dead stones. When the question came, "Do you want to have a stage of designate dead stones after next series of passes?", I naturally answered, "yes". I kept playing and killed enough groups to make the game clearly won, and when we both passed, there was no re-counting of dead stones.
Sure enough, my opponent had selected "no", as I suspected he would.
This clearly promotes cheating. The proposed solutions are as follows, going from best to worst:
1) An algorithm that automatically designates dead stones.
2) NO QUESTION about having another stage for designating stones. Since there was already one stage, but the players COULDN'T AGREE, that means that there AUTOMATICALLY needs to be another round of dead stone designation. This should just happen every time.
3) If the question remains like it does now, it should be that if EITHER or BOTH of the players answers "yes", then there should be a stone counting stage.
增加一些新内容到这篇报告
- 其他的游戏桌 ID / 移动 ID
- 按 F5 是否解决了这个问题?
- 问题是否发生了好几次?还是每次都发生?还是时好时坏?
- 如果你有这个系统漏洞发生时的屏幕截图(画质不要太差),你可以使用Imgur.com来把它上传到网络,然后将链接复制/粘贴到这里来。
