#161074: "Simultaneous play"
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• 如果有的话，请将你在屏幕上所看到的错误信息粘贴出来.
I know this would represent a lot of work to do correctly but it would be great.
The game is setup for up to 12 players.
Sparkle is meant to be a fast live game, a sequential turn based game with 12 players just can't be that.
This could be solved with a simultaneous play option that could work something like this:
1) Everyone plays his turn at the same time
2) Nobody can see what the other players have done for this round
2a) either until they have validated their round (this is how Railroad Ink work for instance)
2b) or until everyone has validated their round (this is how race for the galaxy works)
3) Once everyone has validated their round, everyone's play displayed in the log and possibly show in some nice manner though (with care taken so that players who aren't at the table when the rounds end can see it too)
4) Game is checked for victory conditions (if multiple players have reached the limit, it is obviously the one with the most points that wins)
5) If no one has won yet, go to next round and start again
If 2b is chosen, you can let players change their mind and make more throws as longs as the game still waits for someone (some games allow this)
I 100% would play the game this way with my friends if it was available. -
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• 请以英文复制／粘贴显示文字而非你的语言。 如果你有这个系统漏洞发生时的屏幕截图(画质不要太差)，你可以使用Imgur.com来把它上传到网络，然后将链接复制/粘贴到这里来。
I know this would represent a lot of work to do correctly but it would be great.
The game is setup for up to 12 players.
Sparkle is meant to be a fast live game, a sequential turn based game with 12 players just can't be that.
This could be solved with a simultaneous play option that could work something like this:
1) Everyone plays his turn at the same time
2) Nobody can see what the other players have done for this round
2a) either until they have validated their round (this is how Railroad Ink work for instance)
2b) or until everyone has validated their round (this is how race for the galaxy works)
3) Once everyone has validated their round, everyone's play displayed in the log and possibly show in some nice manner though (with care taken so that players who aren't at the table when the rounds end can see it too)
4) Game is checked for victory conditions (if multiple players have reached the limit, it is obviously the one with the most points that wins)
5) If no one has won yet, go to next round and start again
If 2b is chosen, you can let players change their mind and make more throws as longs as the game still waits for someone (some games allow this)
I 100% would play the game this way with my friends if it was available. -
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• 请简明而精确地解释您的建议，以便让人明白您想表达的意思。
I know this would represent a lot of work to do correctly but it would be great.
The game is setup for up to 12 players.
Sparkle is meant to be a fast live game, a sequential turn based game with 12 players just can't be that.
This could be solved with a simultaneous play option that could work something like this:
1) Everyone plays his turn at the same time
2) Nobody can see what the other players have done for this round
2a) either until they have validated their round (this is how Railroad Ink work for instance)
2b) or until everyone has validated their round (this is how race for the galaxy works)
3) Once everyone has validated their round, everyone's play displayed in the log and possibly show in some nice manner though (with care taken so that players who aren't at the table when the rounds end can see it too)
4) Game is checked for victory conditions (if multiple players have reached the limit, it is obviously the one with the most points that wins)
5) If no one has won yet, go to next round and start again
If 2b is chosen, you can let players change their mind and make more throws as longs as the game still waits for someone (some games allow this)
I 100% would play the game this way with my friends if it was available. • 您正使用哪一款浏览器呢？
Google Chrome v134
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• 当你被封锁的时候，屏幕上出现了些什么呢？(空白的屏幕？部分游戏平台画面？错误的信息？)
I know this would represent a lot of work to do correctly but it would be great.
The game is setup for up to 12 players.
Sparkle is meant to be a fast live game, a sequential turn based game with 12 players just can't be that.
This could be solved with a simultaneous play option that could work something like this:
1) Everyone plays his turn at the same time
2) Nobody can see what the other players have done for this round
2a) either until they have validated their round (this is how Railroad Ink work for instance)
2b) or until everyone has validated their round (this is how race for the galaxy works)
3) Once everyone has validated their round, everyone's play displayed in the log and possibly show in some nice manner though (with care taken so that players who aren't at the table when the rounds end can see it too)
4) Game is checked for victory conditions (if multiple players have reached the limit, it is obviously the one with the most points that wins)
5) If no one has won yet, go to next round and start again
If 2b is chosen, you can let players change their mind and make more throws as longs as the game still waits for someone (some games allow this)
I 100% would play the game this way with my friends if it was available. • 您正使用哪一款浏览器呢？
Google Chrome v134
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• 哪个规则没有被BGA的设计小组写进游戏里？
I know this would represent a lot of work to do correctly but it would be great.
The game is setup for up to 12 players.
Sparkle is meant to be a fast live game, a sequential turn based game with 12 players just can't be that.
This could be solved with a simultaneous play option that could work something like this:
1) Everyone plays his turn at the same time
2) Nobody can see what the other players have done for this round
2a) either until they have validated their round (this is how Railroad Ink work for instance)
2b) or until everyone has validated their round (this is how race for the galaxy works)
3) Once everyone has validated their round, everyone's play displayed in the log and possibly show in some nice manner though (with care taken so that players who aren't at the table when the rounds end can see it too)
4) Game is checked for victory conditions (if multiple players have reached the limit, it is obviously the one with the most points that wins)
5) If no one has won yet, go to next round and start again
If 2b is chosen, you can let players change their mind and make more throws as longs as the game still waits for someone (some games allow this)
I 100% would play the game this way with my friends if it was available. -
• 在游戏回放中，是否有不符合游戏规则的地方？如果有的话，请问是在哪一步呢？
• 您正使用哪一款浏览器呢？
Google Chrome v134
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• 你当时是想做哪个游戏行动？
I know this would represent a lot of work to do correctly but it would be great.
The game is setup for up to 12 players.
Sparkle is meant to be a fast live game, a sequential turn based game with 12 players just can't be that.
This could be solved with a simultaneous play option that could work something like this:
1) Everyone plays his turn at the same time
2) Nobody can see what the other players have done for this round
2a) either until they have validated their round (this is how Railroad Ink work for instance)
2b) or until everyone has validated their round (this is how race for the galaxy works)
3) Once everyone has validated their round, everyone's play displayed in the log and possibly show in some nice manner though (with care taken so that players who aren't at the table when the rounds end can see it too)
4) Game is checked for victory conditions (if multiple players have reached the limit, it is obviously the one with the most points that wins)
5) If no one has won yet, go to next round and start again
If 2b is chosen, you can let players change their mind and make more throws as longs as the game still waits for someone (some games allow this)
I 100% would play the game this way with my friends if it was available. -
• 你在想做什么的时候，触发了这个游戏选项？
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• 当你想这么做时，发生了什么事(错误信息，游戏状态信息，......)？
• 您正使用哪一款浏览器呢？
Google Chrome v134
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• 请问这个问题发生在游戏的哪个阶段(当前的游戏说明是什么)？
I know this would represent a lot of work to do correctly but it would be great.
The game is setup for up to 12 players.
Sparkle is meant to be a fast live game, a sequential turn based game with 12 players just can't be that.
This could be solved with a simultaneous play option that could work something like this:
1) Everyone plays his turn at the same time
2) Nobody can see what the other players have done for this round
2a) either until they have validated their round (this is how Railroad Ink work for instance)
2b) or until everyone has validated their round (this is how race for the galaxy works)
3) Once everyone has validated their round, everyone's play displayed in the log and possibly show in some nice manner though (with care taken so that players who aren't at the table when the rounds end can see it too)
4) Game is checked for victory conditions (if multiple players have reached the limit, it is obviously the one with the most points that wins)
5) If no one has won yet, go to next round and start again
If 2b is chosen, you can let players change their mind and make more throws as longs as the game still waits for someone (some games allow this)
I 100% would play the game this way with my friends if it was available. -
• 当你想进行一个游戏行动时，发生了什么事(错误信息，游戏状态信息，......)？
• 您正使用哪一款浏览器呢？
Google Chrome v134
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• 请描述一下显示画面上面的问题。 如果你有这个系统漏洞发生时的屏幕截图(画质不要太差)，你可以使用Imgur.com来把它上传到网络，然后将链接复制/粘贴到这里来。
I know this would represent a lot of work to do correctly but it would be great.
The game is setup for up to 12 players.
Sparkle is meant to be a fast live game, a sequential turn based game with 12 players just can't be that.
This could be solved with a simultaneous play option that could work something like this:
1) Everyone plays his turn at the same time
2) Nobody can see what the other players have done for this round
2a) either until they have validated their round (this is how Railroad Ink work for instance)
2b) or until everyone has validated their round (this is how race for the galaxy works)
3) Once everyone has validated their round, everyone's play displayed in the log and possibly show in some nice manner though (with care taken so that players who aren't at the table when the rounds end can see it too)
4) Game is checked for victory conditions (if multiple players have reached the limit, it is obviously the one with the most points that wins)
5) If no one has won yet, go to next round and start again
If 2b is chosen, you can let players change their mind and make more throws as longs as the game still waits for someone (some games allow this)
I 100% would play the game this way with my friends if it was available. • 您正使用哪一款浏览器呢？
Google Chrome v134
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• 请以英文复制／粘贴显示文字而非你的语言。 如果你有这个系统漏洞发生时的屏幕截图(画质不要太差)，你可以使用Imgur.com来把它上传到网络，然后将链接复制/粘贴到这里来。
I know this would represent a lot of work to do correctly but it would be great.
The game is setup for up to 12 players.
Sparkle is meant to be a fast live game, a sequential turn based game with 12 players just can't be that.
This could be solved with a simultaneous play option that could work something like this:
1) Everyone plays his turn at the same time
2) Nobody can see what the other players have done for this round
2a) either until they have validated their round (this is how Railroad Ink work for instance)
2b) or until everyone has validated their round (this is how race for the galaxy works)
3) Once everyone has validated their round, everyone's play displayed in the log and possibly show in some nice manner though (with care taken so that players who aren't at the table when the rounds end can see it too)
4) Game is checked for victory conditions (if multiple players have reached the limit, it is obviously the one with the most points that wins)
5) If no one has won yet, go to next round and start again
If 2b is chosen, you can let players change their mind and make more throws as longs as the game still waits for someone (some games allow this)
I 100% would play the game this way with my friends if it was available. -
• 这段文本在翻译系统中吗？如果存在，它被翻译是否已超过二十四小时？
• 您正使用哪一款浏览器呢？
Google Chrome v134
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• 请简明而精确地解释您的建议，以便让人明白您想表达的意思。
I know this would represent a lot of work to do correctly but it would be great.
The game is setup for up to 12 players.
Sparkle is meant to be a fast live game, a sequential turn based game with 12 players just can't be that.
This could be solved with a simultaneous play option that could work something like this:
1) Everyone plays his turn at the same time
2) Nobody can see what the other players have done for this round
2a) either until they have validated their round (this is how Railroad Ink work for instance)
2b) or until everyone has validated their round (this is how race for the galaxy works)
3) Once everyone has validated their round, everyone's play displayed in the log and possibly show in some nice manner though (with care taken so that players who aren't at the table when the rounds end can see it too)
4) Game is checked for victory conditions (if multiple players have reached the limit, it is obviously the one with the most points that wins)
5) If no one has won yet, go to next round and start again
If 2b is chosen, you can let players change their mind and make more throws as longs as the game still waits for someone (some games allow this)
I 100% would play the game this way with my friends if it was available. • 您正使用哪一款浏览器呢？
Google Chrome v134
案件历史
boardgamearena.com/forum/viewtopic.php?t=41709
I added simultaneous mode in Yahtzee, Dice Poker and Shut the Box, but in those games other players rarely affect the choice, as almost all cases players have 'optimal' movements.
Farkle is different - Players will (and have to) push their luck many times, even while knowing the chance is slim, because of other players.
- In Farkle, every player except who reached the score limit gets an extra turn.
However, this extra turn is disregarded in this variant.
- Don't forget not every game is meant to be turn-based compatible.
Some games simply don't go well with the turn-based mode (e.g. dexterity, trick-taking).
In short, the suggested variant is not good enough to be implemented.
Sure it changes the tactic a little but it remains a push your luck.
Take a game like 6nimmt, it's kind of a reverse trick taking time and it is simultaneous; it would be quite boring if it wasn't. Or look at a 6 player Race for the Galaxy, 7 wonders, many rolls and writes etc...
And some do allow a part of the game to be simultaneous as an after thought with the option to go back to sequential if a player feels like order is important (Puerto Rico, New Frontiers,...).
The best analogy to Farkle is probably "Pokerdice" which has a simultaneous mode that traditional live play doesn't. Does it change the tactics ? Sure. But it works and most games with more than 2 players are played with simultaneous mode activated.
Simultaneous play, whether inbred in the design or added afterward even partially seriously help toward making a game good in turn-based mode for more than 2-3 players.
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- 按 F5 是否解决了这个问题？
- 问题是否发生了好几次？还是每次都发生？还是时好时坏？
- 如果你有这个系统漏洞发生时的屏幕截图(画质不要太差)，你可以使用Imgur.com来把它上传到网络，然后将链接复制/粘贴到这里来。
