#158400: "Game progression start at 50% and ends at 65%, but should start at 0% and end at 100%"
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• 如果有的话，请将你在屏幕上所看到的错误信息粘贴出来.
At the start of the game, before any player did any turn, the game progression was shown as 50%. At the end of the game, after the last turn, I.e. when the white player is announced to be the winner, the game progress was shown as 65%.
Progression should start at 0% at the beginning of the of the game, got increased with every turn and end at 100% at the end of the game. I know, that it is not easy to calculate a good progression value, but as the BGA studio guidelines says: „Game progression should be as accurate as possible. Of course, its not always easy (or even possible) to compute game progression, but a vague approximation is better than nothing.“ -
• 请说明你当时想做什么，你做了什么，然后发生了什么
• 您正使用哪一款浏览器呢？
Safari v18.3
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• 请以英文复制／粘贴显示文字而非你的语言。 如果你已截取此Bug的屏幕截图（好习惯），可使用任意图片托管服务（例如snipboard.io）上传后，将链接复制粘贴至此处。 这段文本在翻译系统中吗？如果存在，它被翻译是否已超过二十四小时？
At the start of the game, before any player did any turn, the game progression was shown as 50%. At the end of the game, after the last turn, I.e. when the white player is announced to be the winner, the game progress was shown as 65%.
Progression should start at 0% at the beginning of the of the game, got increased with every turn and end at 100% at the end of the game. I know, that it is not easy to calculate a good progression value, but as the BGA studio guidelines says: „Game progression should be as accurate as possible. Of course, its not always easy (or even possible) to compute game progression, but a vague approximation is better than nothing.“ • 您正使用哪一款浏览器呢？
Safari v18.3
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• 请简明而精确地解释您的建议，以便让人明白您想表达的意思。
At the start of the game, before any player did any turn, the game progression was shown as 50%. At the end of the game, after the last turn, I.e. when the white player is announced to be the winner, the game progress was shown as 65%.
Progression should start at 0% at the beginning of the of the game, got increased with every turn and end at 100% at the end of the game. I know, that it is not easy to calculate a good progression value, but as the BGA studio guidelines says: „Game progression should be as accurate as possible. Of course, its not always easy (or even possible) to compute game progression, but a vague approximation is better than nothing.“ • 您正使用哪一款浏览器呢？
Safari v18.3
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• 当你被封锁的时候，屏幕上出现了些什么呢？(空白的屏幕？部分游戏平台画面？错误的信息？)
At the start of the game, before any player did any turn, the game progression was shown as 50%. At the end of the game, after the last turn, I.e. when the white player is announced to be the winner, the game progress was shown as 65%.
Progression should start at 0% at the beginning of the of the game, got increased with every turn and end at 100% at the end of the game. I know, that it is not easy to calculate a good progression value, but as the BGA studio guidelines says: „Game progression should be as accurate as possible. Of course, its not always easy (or even possible) to compute game progression, but a vague approximation is better than nothing.“ • 您正使用哪一款浏览器呢？
Safari v18.3
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• 哪个规则没有被BGA的设计小组写进游戏里？
At the start of the game, before any player did any turn, the game progression was shown as 50%. At the end of the game, after the last turn, I.e. when the white player is announced to be the winner, the game progress was shown as 65%.
Progression should start at 0% at the beginning of the of the game, got increased with every turn and end at 100% at the end of the game. I know, that it is not easy to calculate a good progression value, but as the BGA studio guidelines says: „Game progression should be as accurate as possible. Of course, its not always easy (or even possible) to compute game progression, but a vague approximation is better than nothing.“ -
• 在游戏回放中，是否有不符合游戏规则的地方？如果有的话，请问是在哪一步呢？
• 您正使用哪一款浏览器呢？
Safari v18.3
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• 你当时是想做哪个游戏行动？
At the start of the game, before any player did any turn, the game progression was shown as 50%. At the end of the game, after the last turn, I.e. when the white player is announced to be the winner, the game progress was shown as 65%.
Progression should start at 0% at the beginning of the of the game, got increased with every turn and end at 100% at the end of the game. I know, that it is not easy to calculate a good progression value, but as the BGA studio guidelines says: „Game progression should be as accurate as possible. Of course, its not always easy (or even possible) to compute game progression, but a vague approximation is better than nothing.“ -
• 你在想做什么的时候，触发了这个游戏选项？
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• 当你想这么做时，发生了什么事(错误信息，游戏状态信息，......)？
• 您正使用哪一款浏览器呢？
Safari v18.3
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• 请问这个问题发生在游戏的哪个阶段(当前的游戏说明是什么)？
At the start of the game, before any player did any turn, the game progression was shown as 50%. At the end of the game, after the last turn, I.e. when the white player is announced to be the winner, the game progress was shown as 65%.
Progression should start at 0% at the beginning of the of the game, got increased with every turn and end at 100% at the end of the game. I know, that it is not easy to calculate a good progression value, but as the BGA studio guidelines says: „Game progression should be as accurate as possible. Of course, its not always easy (or even possible) to compute game progression, but a vague approximation is better than nothing.“ -
• 当你想进行一个游戏行动时，发生了什么事(错误信息，游戏状态信息，......)？
• 您正使用哪一款浏览器呢？
Safari v18.3
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• 请描述一下显示画面上面的问题。 如果你已截取此Bug的屏幕截图（好习惯），可使用任意图片托管服务（例如snipboard.io）上传后，将链接复制粘贴至此处。
At the start of the game, before any player did any turn, the game progression was shown as 50%. At the end of the game, after the last turn, I.e. when the white player is announced to be the winner, the game progress was shown as 65%.
Progression should start at 0% at the beginning of the of the game, got increased with every turn and end at 100% at the end of the game. I know, that it is not easy to calculate a good progression value, but as the BGA studio guidelines says: „Game progression should be as accurate as possible. Of course, its not always easy (or even possible) to compute game progression, but a vague approximation is better than nothing.“ • 您正使用哪一款浏览器呢？
Safari v18.3
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• 请以英文复制／粘贴显示文字而非你的语言。 如果你已截取此Bug的屏幕截图（好习惯），可使用任意图片托管服务（例如snipboard.io）上传后，将链接复制粘贴至此处。 这段文本在翻译系统中吗？如果存在，它被翻译是否已超过二十四小时？
At the start of the game, before any player did any turn, the game progression was shown as 50%. At the end of the game, after the last turn, I.e. when the white player is announced to be the winner, the game progress was shown as 65%.
Progression should start at 0% at the beginning of the of the game, got increased with every turn and end at 100% at the end of the game. I know, that it is not easy to calculate a good progression value, but as the BGA studio guidelines says: „Game progression should be as accurate as possible. Of course, its not always easy (or even possible) to compute game progression, but a vague approximation is better than nothing.“ • 您正使用哪一款浏览器呢？
Safari v18.3
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• 请简明而精确地解释您的建议，以便让人明白您想表达的意思。
At the start of the game, before any player did any turn, the game progression was shown as 50%. At the end of the game, after the last turn, I.e. when the white player is announced to be the winner, the game progress was shown as 65%.
Progression should start at 0% at the beginning of the of the game, got increased with every turn and end at 100% at the end of the game. I know, that it is not easy to calculate a good progression value, but as the BGA studio guidelines says: „Game progression should be as accurate as possible. Of course, its not always easy (or even possible) to compute game progression, but a vague approximation is better than nothing.“ • 您正使用哪一款浏览器呢？
Safari v18.3
案件历史
1. At game start, progression should be 0%.
2. The wolfes can only move forward. That limit each wolf to a maximum of 7 moves. The wolf player has 4 pawns, so they can move not more than 28 times,
3. The sheep can move forward and backward. The does not limit the number of moves. But as both players move one after the other, the sheep player can not have more turns that the wolf player (plus 1 move, if the sheep player is the starting player). So, there could not be more than 57 moves in a single game. => Each turn should increase the progress by at least 1.75 (which is 1/57).
4. At the end of the game, the progress should be set to 100%. This should be done when the winner is announced. Note, that the game announces the winner, as soon as it is obvious that the sheep can not be blocked any more, even so the official win condition has not been met.
That would be a simple calculation of progression. It would cause a big step for the last turn of the game, but it at least takes into account how many tuns are possible if both players behave as if they need to do as much moves as possible. (Not sure, if you could detect situations, where black gets stuck and cannot move all 4 black pawns to the last line of the board.)
1. The first version of the game was using a 0% progress at start, but I was asked to change to 50% at start like other BGA abstract games (chess or something like that) in order to let players CONCEDE as fast as possible.
(See ticket #101827 : boardgamearena.com/bug?id=101827.)
2+3. Yes it is used to compute the progress from 50% to 100%
4. To analyze
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