#150342: "TTR Switzerland must not be with TTR USA but in another TTR maps group"
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TTR experts like to play USA to have the bigger ELO.
They will, near never, play TTR Switzerland to not have an effect on their TTR USA ELO.
We will never have an Arena with TTR Switzerland if it stays with USA !
Same thing if the Switzerland map was added to TTR Europe.
The better should be to have a "TTR map" group with Switzerland and maybe others futures others TTR maps :
Nordic Countries, Asia, India, Heart of Africa, Nederland, United Kingdom, United Kingdom, Pennsylvania, France, Old West, Poland, Japan, Italy, ... -
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TTR experts like to play USA to have the bigger ELO.
They will, near never, play TTR Switzerland to not have an effect on their TTR USA ELO.
We will never have an Arena with TTR Switzerland if it stays with USA !
Same thing if the Switzerland map was added to TTR Europe.
The better should be to have a "TTR map" group with Switzerland and maybe others futures others TTR maps :
Nordic Countries, Asia, India, Heart of Africa, Nederland, United Kingdom, United Kingdom, Pennsylvania, France, Old West, Poland, Japan, Italy, ... -
• 这段文本在翻译系统中吗?如果存在,它被翻译是否已超过二十四小时?
• 您正使用哪一款浏览器呢?
Google Chrome v131
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• 请简明而精确地解释您的建议,以便让人明白您想表达的意思。
TTR experts like to play USA to have the bigger ELO.
They will, near never, play TTR Switzerland to not have an effect on their TTR USA ELO.
We will never have an Arena with TTR Switzerland if it stays with USA !
Same thing if the Switzerland map was added to TTR Europe.
The better should be to have a "TTR map" group with Switzerland and maybe others futures others TTR maps :
Nordic Countries, Asia, India, Heart of Africa, Nederland, United Kingdom, United Kingdom, Pennsylvania, France, Old West, Poland, Japan, Italy, ... • 您正使用哪一款浏览器呢?
Google Chrome v131
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• 当你被封锁的时候,屏幕上出现了些什么呢?(空白的屏幕?部分游戏平台画面?错误的信息?)
TTR experts like to play USA to have the bigger ELO.
They will, near never, play TTR Switzerland to not have an effect on their TTR USA ELO.
We will never have an Arena with TTR Switzerland if it stays with USA !
Same thing if the Switzerland map was added to TTR Europe.
The better should be to have a "TTR map" group with Switzerland and maybe others futures others TTR maps :
Nordic Countries, Asia, India, Heart of Africa, Nederland, United Kingdom, United Kingdom, Pennsylvania, France, Old West, Poland, Japan, Italy, ... • 您正使用哪一款浏览器呢?
Google Chrome v131
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• 哪个规则没有被BGA的设计小组写进游戏里?
TTR experts like to play USA to have the bigger ELO.
They will, near never, play TTR Switzerland to not have an effect on their TTR USA ELO.
We will never have an Arena with TTR Switzerland if it stays with USA !
Same thing if the Switzerland map was added to TTR Europe.
The better should be to have a "TTR map" group with Switzerland and maybe others futures others TTR maps :
Nordic Countries, Asia, India, Heart of Africa, Nederland, United Kingdom, United Kingdom, Pennsylvania, France, Old West, Poland, Japan, Italy, ... -
• 在游戏回放中,是否有不符合游戏规则的地方?如果有的话,请问是在哪一步呢?
• 您正使用哪一款浏览器呢?
Google Chrome v131
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• 你当时是想做哪个游戏行动?
TTR experts like to play USA to have the bigger ELO.
They will, near never, play TTR Switzerland to not have an effect on their TTR USA ELO.
We will never have an Arena with TTR Switzerland if it stays with USA !
Same thing if the Switzerland map was added to TTR Europe.
The better should be to have a "TTR map" group with Switzerland and maybe others futures others TTR maps :
Nordic Countries, Asia, India, Heart of Africa, Nederland, United Kingdom, United Kingdom, Pennsylvania, France, Old West, Poland, Japan, Italy, ... -
• 你在想做什么的时候,触发了这个游戏选项?
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• 当你想这么做时,发生了什么事(错误信息,游戏状态信息,......)?
• 您正使用哪一款浏览器呢?
Google Chrome v131
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• 请问这个问题发生在游戏的哪个阶段(当前的游戏说明是什么)?
TTR experts like to play USA to have the bigger ELO.
They will, near never, play TTR Switzerland to not have an effect on their TTR USA ELO.
We will never have an Arena with TTR Switzerland if it stays with USA !
Same thing if the Switzerland map was added to TTR Europe.
The better should be to have a "TTR map" group with Switzerland and maybe others futures others TTR maps :
Nordic Countries, Asia, India, Heart of Africa, Nederland, United Kingdom, United Kingdom, Pennsylvania, France, Old West, Poland, Japan, Italy, ... -
• 当你想进行一个游戏行动时,发生了什么事(错误信息,游戏状态信息,......)?
• 您正使用哪一款浏览器呢?
Google Chrome v131
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• 请描述一下显示画面上面的问题。 如果你有这个系统漏洞发生时的屏幕截图(画质不要太差),你可以使用Imgur.com来把它上传到网络,然后将链接复制/粘贴到这里来。
TTR experts like to play USA to have the bigger ELO.
They will, near never, play TTR Switzerland to not have an effect on their TTR USA ELO.
We will never have an Arena with TTR Switzerland if it stays with USA !
Same thing if the Switzerland map was added to TTR Europe.
The better should be to have a "TTR map" group with Switzerland and maybe others futures others TTR maps :
Nordic Countries, Asia, India, Heart of Africa, Nederland, United Kingdom, United Kingdom, Pennsylvania, France, Old West, Poland, Japan, Italy, ... • 您正使用哪一款浏览器呢?
Google Chrome v131
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• 请以英文复制/粘贴显示文字而非你的语言。 如果你有这个系统漏洞发生时的屏幕截图(画质不要太差),你可以使用Imgur.com来把它上传到网络,然后将链接复制/粘贴到这里来。
TTR experts like to play USA to have the bigger ELO.
They will, near never, play TTR Switzerland to not have an effect on their TTR USA ELO.
We will never have an Arena with TTR Switzerland if it stays with USA !
Same thing if the Switzerland map was added to TTR Europe.
The better should be to have a "TTR map" group with Switzerland and maybe others futures others TTR maps :
Nordic Countries, Asia, India, Heart of Africa, Nederland, United Kingdom, United Kingdom, Pennsylvania, France, Old West, Poland, Japan, Italy, ... -
• 这段文本在翻译系统中吗?如果存在,它被翻译是否已超过二十四小时?
• 您正使用哪一款浏览器呢?
Google Chrome v131
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• 请简明而精确地解释您的建议,以便让人明白您想表达的意思。
TTR experts like to play USA to have the bigger ELO.
They will, near never, play TTR Switzerland to not have an effect on their TTR USA ELO.
We will never have an Arena with TTR Switzerland if it stays with USA !
Same thing if the Switzerland map was added to TTR Europe.
The better should be to have a "TTR map" group with Switzerland and maybe others futures others TTR maps :
Nordic Countries, Asia, India, Heart of Africa, Nederland, United Kingdom, United Kingdom, Pennsylvania, France, Old West, Poland, Japan, Italy, ... • 您正使用哪一款浏览器呢?
Google Chrome v131
案件历史
It'd definitely help some map specialists and have different names atop the TTR rankings.
Mega, 1910 and Big Cities would also benefit from separate rankings considering the number of players on base TTR. That would definitely level the field.
boardgamearena.com/bug?id=150336
These bugs in BGA bug part for TTR USA are not visible because the default sort shows the more voted bugs that are all about TTR USA !
If Switzerland was not with USA, looking for TTR Switzerland bugs will have shown the opened bugs from Switzerland only.
I would like to upvote this report, but the proposed solution means that I just can't.
The claim that differences are minimal is a subjective one; others claim that the differences are huge—just check out the (current) top answer to this question: boardgames.stackexchange.com/questions/1947/are-there-any-differences-between-the-ticket-to-ride-games-i-should-take-into-ac
Since I don't know how to objectively quantify such differences, I'll simply state that my personal suspicion that the level of difference is in the eye of the beholder.
As to your point that it makes sense from a developer's perspective, that may well be true, but I will suggest that we're not here for the developers, but rather for the games—and therefore that it is the /quality/ of the offering of the game (including a format that supports competition and its accompanying aspects such as ELO and the Arena) that should take precedence, and only secondarily should developers' considerations have any sway. "The game's the thing", as they say.
Thank you!
During the same period of 10 days, more than 30 bugs were opened for TTR USA but in fact for Switzerland and new bugs continues to fall every days.
The reason is that the new TTR Switzerland players think that the rules are the same than for USA (or Europe) for locomotives and create bugs ignoring that there is a difference.
Another reason to have TTR Switzerland out of TTR USA (and Europe) : Today, it is possible to see TTR Switzerland in the home page of BGA in the new games. But in the future it will not be visible (without changes) and the BGA search for "Switzerland" gives no results, so the TTR Switzerland will not be known like present on BGA.
Note that with my special profile, "Switzerland" BGA search have a one result : TTR Switzerland ALPHA... that shows that initially TTR Switzerland was a real game not linked to TTR USA !
During the same period of 16 days, about an hundred of bugs were opened for TTR USA but in fact they are for Switzerland and new bugs continues to fall every days.
The majority of these bugs is linked to the fact that Switzerland rules is different from USA (and Europe) rules even it looks like to be the same rules looking only the Map!
The other problem for new user is starting a Switzerland game is made from the same page than USA.
1) The hardcore USA map fanatics.
2) The smaller but also fanatical Europe group (I used to be here.)
3) The people who want to play every map (this is where I am now.)
In real life I own all but 2 of the map packs. I love experimenting with the different variants. While there might be people who really love Ticket to Ride: Iberia above all else, I suspect 99% of the people who've even played it are those of us who buy all the different map packs and really love experimenting. This definitely isn't true for Europe or USA maps.
So this proposal really makes the most sense to me, there must be some Switzerland fans, but I'd bet a good chunk of the Switzerland fans are also interested in Legendary Asia or South Korea or Africa, while the same is pretty clearly not true of USA (or Europe?) fans.
TTR is a big game, it can stand a bit of fracturing, and this seems like a good middle ground.
Or alternatively, all TTR's would need to be one game and you just rotate the maps per arena season but I get how this would make many players mad.
I am aware the difference between physical versions and what is expansion and what is not, but if you look at other digital versions of this game (old PC version for example), it didn't really sort maps like physical full release or expansion, it just presented each expansion as same level item as full game.
I stopped to play arena cause 1912 was included to arena.
And Swiss included to US - is not nice to me.
I would suggest to create Asia as separate map for example)
After more reflexion, I should have proposed for this suggestion that each TTR map should be a different game in BGA because the rules of each TTR map is different.
I have stopped my count of the TTR Switzerland bugs opened because new players continue to create a lot of bugs in BGA because they ignore the rules of Switzerland, thinking that they are the same as USA like in BGA, Switzerland is grouped with USA.
Now TTR Switzerland is no more in the news visible in the BGA home page !
Looking for "Switzerland” gives no results for game even TTR Switzerland is already implemented in BGA site !
So new BGA players will no know that TTR Switzerland is in BGA even they know well this game.
We can’t suppose that TTR Switzerland is in BGA. Only TTR USA and Europe seem to be in BGA.
Once again, this map absolutely needs to be a standalone game!
Thank you!
Having 1910 and 1912 mixed with their respective base games is already bad enough, entire maps are just too much
Switzerland as a toggle for the USA map leads to confusion, and confusion leads to bad experiences with the BGA platform:
* games that get refused
* games that get abandoned
* games that are confusing
* clutter in the bug reporting, and extra work because of it
* ELO effects
* grumpy players
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