#14108: "Fighter, ranger and wizard should activate when quest is completed notwhen crafting."
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细节描述
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• 如果有的话，请将你在屏幕上所看到的错误信息粘贴出来.
Under specialist timing page 12. by the blue,yellow,red symbol found on fighter ranger and wizard.
When you gain treasure from a quest of the indicated hero type.
and this rule shows when treasures are awarded.
Completing a Questresults in. As soon as all of a quest’s items have been crafted, that quest
is complete. (The heroes always succeed on their quests.)
If you crafted all the items for that quest:
• Draw the quest’s treasure card(s). <----------------------------------
• Take the quest card and place it face-up to the left
of your player board. -
• 请说明你当时想做什么，你做了什么，然后发生了什么
193
• 您正使用哪一款浏览器呢？
Google Chrome v79
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• 请以英文复制／粘贴显示文字而非你的语言。 如果你有这个系统漏洞发生时的屏幕截图(画质不要太差)，你可以使用Imgur.com来把它上传到网络，然后将链接复制/粘贴到这里来。
Under specialist timing page 12. by the blue,yellow,red symbol found on fighter ranger and wizard.
When you gain treasure from a quest of the indicated hero type.
and this rule shows when treasures are awarded.
Completing a Questresults in. As soon as all of a quest’s items have been crafted, that quest
is complete. (The heroes always succeed on their quests.)
If you crafted all the items for that quest:
• Draw the quest’s treasure card(s). <----------------------------------
• Take the quest card and place it face-up to the left
of your player board. -
• 这段文本在翻译系统中吗？如果存在，它被翻译是否已超过二十四小时？
193
• 您正使用哪一款浏览器呢？
Google Chrome v79
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• 请简明而精确地解释您的建议，以便让人明白您想表达的意思。
Under specialist timing page 12. by the blue,yellow,red symbol found on fighter ranger and wizard.
When you gain treasure from a quest of the indicated hero type.
and this rule shows when treasures are awarded.
Completing a Questresults in. As soon as all of a quest’s items have been crafted, that quest
is complete. (The heroes always succeed on their quests.)
If you crafted all the items for that quest:
• Draw the quest’s treasure card(s). <----------------------------------
• Take the quest card and place it face-up to the left
of your player board. • 您正使用哪一款浏览器呢？
Google Chrome v79
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• 当你被封锁的时候，屏幕上出现了些什么呢？(空白的屏幕？部分游戏平台画面？错误的信息？)
Under specialist timing page 12. by the blue,yellow,red symbol found on fighter ranger and wizard.
When you gain treasure from a quest of the indicated hero type.
and this rule shows when treasures are awarded.
Completing a Questresults in. As soon as all of a quest’s items have been crafted, that quest
is complete. (The heroes always succeed on their quests.)
If you crafted all the items for that quest:
• Draw the quest’s treasure card(s). <----------------------------------
• Take the quest card and place it face-up to the left
of your player board. • 您正使用哪一款浏览器呢？
Google Chrome v79
-
• 哪个规则没有被BGA的设计小组写进游戏里？
Under specialist timing page 12. by the blue,yellow,red symbol found on fighter ranger and wizard.
When you gain treasure from a quest of the indicated hero type.
and this rule shows when treasures are awarded.
Completing a Questresults in. As soon as all of a quest’s items have been crafted, that quest
is complete. (The heroes always succeed on their quests.)
If you crafted all the items for that quest:
• Draw the quest’s treasure card(s). <----------------------------------
• Take the quest card and place it face-up to the left
of your player board. -
• 在游戏回放中，是否有不符合游戏规则的地方？如果有的话，请问是在哪一步呢？
193
• 您正使用哪一款浏览器呢？
Google Chrome v79
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• 你当时是想做哪个游戏行动？
Under specialist timing page 12. by the blue,yellow,red symbol found on fighter ranger and wizard.
When you gain treasure from a quest of the indicated hero type.
and this rule shows when treasures are awarded.
Completing a Questresults in. As soon as all of a quest’s items have been crafted, that quest
is complete. (The heroes always succeed on their quests.)
If you crafted all the items for that quest:
• Draw the quest’s treasure card(s). <----------------------------------
• Take the quest card and place it face-up to the left
of your player board. -
• 你在想做什么的时候，触发了这个游戏选项？
193
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• 当你想这么做时，发生了什么事(错误信息，游戏状态信息，......)？
• 您正使用哪一款浏览器呢？
Google Chrome v79
-
• 请问这个问题发生在游戏的哪个阶段(当前的游戏说明是什么)？
Under specialist timing page 12. by the blue,yellow,red symbol found on fighter ranger and wizard.
When you gain treasure from a quest of the indicated hero type.
and this rule shows when treasures are awarded.
Completing a Questresults in. As soon as all of a quest’s items have been crafted, that quest
is complete. (The heroes always succeed on their quests.)
If you crafted all the items for that quest:
• Draw the quest’s treasure card(s). <----------------------------------
• Take the quest card and place it face-up to the left
of your player board. -
• 当你想进行一个游戏行动时，发生了什么事(错误信息，游戏状态信息，......)？
193
• 您正使用哪一款浏览器呢？
Google Chrome v79
-
• 请描述一下显示画面上面的问题。 如果你有这个系统漏洞发生时的屏幕截图(画质不要太差)，你可以使用Imgur.com来把它上传到网络，然后将链接复制/粘贴到这里来。
Under specialist timing page 12. by the blue,yellow,red symbol found on fighter ranger and wizard.
When you gain treasure from a quest of the indicated hero type.
and this rule shows when treasures are awarded.
Completing a Questresults in. As soon as all of a quest’s items have been crafted, that quest
is complete. (The heroes always succeed on their quests.)
If you crafted all the items for that quest:
• Draw the quest’s treasure card(s). <----------------------------------
• Take the quest card and place it face-up to the left
of your player board. • 您正使用哪一款浏览器呢？
Google Chrome v79
-
• 请以英文复制／粘贴显示文字而非你的语言。 如果你有这个系统漏洞发生时的屏幕截图(画质不要太差)，你可以使用Imgur.com来把它上传到网络，然后将链接复制/粘贴到这里来。
Under specialist timing page 12. by the blue,yellow,red symbol found on fighter ranger and wizard.
When you gain treasure from a quest of the indicated hero type.
and this rule shows when treasures are awarded.
Completing a Questresults in. As soon as all of a quest’s items have been crafted, that quest
is complete. (The heroes always succeed on their quests.)
If you crafted all the items for that quest:
• Draw the quest’s treasure card(s). <----------------------------------
• Take the quest card and place it face-up to the left
of your player board. -
• 这段文本在翻译系统中吗？如果存在，它被翻译是否已超过二十四小时？
193
• 您正使用哪一款浏览器呢？
Google Chrome v79
-
• 请简明而精确地解释您的建议，以便让人明白您想表达的意思。
Under specialist timing page 12. by the blue,yellow,red symbol found on fighter ranger and wizard.
When you gain treasure from a quest of the indicated hero type.
and this rule shows when treasures are awarded.
Completing a Questresults in. As soon as all of a quest’s items have been crafted, that quest
is complete. (The heroes always succeed on their quests.)
If you crafted all the items for that quest:
• Draw the quest’s treasure card(s). <----------------------------------
• Take the quest card and place it face-up to the left
of your player board. • 您正使用哪一款浏览器呢？
Google Chrome v79
案件历史
Fighter, Ranger, Wizard – After you do a quest of the indicated hero type,
you may pay 1 coin to draw a treasure of the indicated color. You get this
bonus whether you started or finished the quest, but only once per quest.
The King's Guild #61607796, move #39: Pompkin crafts the Shield from Sail to Bloodsand Beach. He started the quest, but he had not the Ranger in play.
Move #115: Pumpkin puts Ranger in his guild.
Move #193: biszibosz crafts the Jeweled Vest from Sail to Bloodsand Beach and finishes that quest. Pumpkin gets the Quest card, but he has not finished the quest. Therefore, the Ranger's effect is not triggered.
Start a quest = Craft the first object.
Finish a quest = Craft the only object or craft the second object.
Conclusion: there is no bug.
You can always ask the game designer or publisher as we seem to be at a disagreement about the rules.
Another evidence is the game balance. As it is now the fighter ranger and wizard seldom get bought because they are underpowered by about 1-2 activations or 2-4 points which if you already have sigils on quests can be guaranteed payout if you put some effort into it. Note that as treasures are not paid out when you get the cards in the end of the game they will not activate then.
I checked this with the designer, and it should really be after you gain treasure.
The only real difference is in situation when you craft 2 item quest and you do not have F/R/W yet, than you hire one of those and somebody else finishes the quest - you dont get a chance to use F/R/W.
As I dont have much time those days and it is not my priority (and the change is not easy fix), I will fix this sometimes in the future, but no guarantee it will be in coming months...
Adam
1) For the rest of the game when crafting the first item on 2-item quests, you get the treasure you deserve earlier (i.e. immediately) rather than having to wait until the other half is complete. This is usually an advantage because you have more time to plan around and use that treasure.
2) If you do the first half of a 2-item quest that is never finished by end of game, you still get an activation.
As for their overall value, I think they're pretty balanced (both in current implementation and in official rules). If you activate even twice (which is usually easy), it was usually an acceptable purchase at the usual coin-to-vp conversion rates. If you activate three or more times (which is often harder, but I've done it several times), it can be a quite good purchase.
增加一些新内容到这篇报告
- 其他的游戏桌 ID / 移动 ID
- 按 F5 是否解决了这个问题？
- 问题是否发生了好几次？还是每次都发生？还是时好时坏？
- 如果你有这个系统漏洞发生时的屏幕截图(画质不要太差)，你可以使用Imgur.com来把它上传到网络，然后将链接复制/粘贴到这里来。
