#132354: "Add Beginner mode option: Shield skills that don’t have valid target"
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• 如果有的话，请将你在屏幕上所看到的错误信息粘贴出来.
Based on Lowenhigh’s 7/31/24 11:24am ET post in #rulebook-and-game-questions, skills should not be a selectable option unless there is a valid target in range. A good example is Michael’s Overhand (BGA issue #131936). Another example is mid-way through Michael’s Mighty Smite; I was able to move 2 spaces to an adjacent target, and then if I wanted to, BGA would’ve let me me continue to move 1 more space to get to a saint, but I’d be out of range of my target. That extra space that would end my action out of range of my target needs to be disallowed.
Here is Lowenhigh’s Discord post:
discord.com/channels/744979588366729227/792895031198351370/1268227840508170323 -
• 请说明你当时想做什么，你做了什么，然后发生了什么
Yes, not sure which move number, but it’s when Michael moves to attack a Hateful Fiend with Mighty Smite. I think the 2nd or 3rd round.
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Chrome on iPhone
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• 请以英文复制／粘贴显示文字而非你的语言。 如果你有这个系统漏洞发生时的屏幕截图(画质不要太差)，你可以使用Imgur.com来把它上传到网络，然后将链接复制/粘贴到这里来。
Based on Lowenhigh’s 7/31/24 11:24am ET post in #rulebook-and-game-questions, skills should not be a selectable option unless there is a valid target in range. A good example is Michael’s Overhand (BGA issue #131936). Another example is mid-way through Michael’s Mighty Smite; I was able to move 2 spaces to an adjacent target, and then if I wanted to, BGA would’ve let me me continue to move 1 more space to get to a saint, but I’d be out of range of my target. That extra space that would end my action out of range of my target needs to be disallowed.
Here is Lowenhigh’s Discord post:
discord.com/channels/744979588366729227/792895031198351370/1268227840508170323 -
• 这段文本在翻译系统中吗？如果存在，它被翻译是否已超过二十四小时？
Yes, not sure which move number, but it’s when Michael moves to attack a Hateful Fiend with Mighty Smite. I think the 2nd or 3rd round.
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Chrome on iPhone
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• 请简明而精确地解释您的建议，以便让人明白您想表达的意思。
Based on Lowenhigh’s 7/31/24 11:24am ET post in #rulebook-and-game-questions, skills should not be a selectable option unless there is a valid target in range. A good example is Michael’s Overhand (BGA issue #131936). Another example is mid-way through Michael’s Mighty Smite; I was able to move 2 spaces to an adjacent target, and then if I wanted to, BGA would’ve let me me continue to move 1 more space to get to a saint, but I’d be out of range of my target. That extra space that would end my action out of range of my target needs to be disallowed.
Here is Lowenhigh’s Discord post:
discord.com/channels/744979588366729227/792895031198351370/1268227840508170323 • 您正使用哪一款浏览器呢？
Chrome on iPhone
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• 当你被封锁的时候，屏幕上出现了些什么呢？(空白的屏幕？部分游戏平台画面？错误的信息？)
Based on Lowenhigh’s 7/31/24 11:24am ET post in #rulebook-and-game-questions, skills should not be a selectable option unless there is a valid target in range. A good example is Michael’s Overhand (BGA issue #131936). Another example is mid-way through Michael’s Mighty Smite; I was able to move 2 spaces to an adjacent target, and then if I wanted to, BGA would’ve let me me continue to move 1 more space to get to a saint, but I’d be out of range of my target. That extra space that would end my action out of range of my target needs to be disallowed.
Here is Lowenhigh’s Discord post:
discord.com/channels/744979588366729227/792895031198351370/1268227840508170323 • 您正使用哪一款浏览器呢？
Chrome on iPhone
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• 哪个规则没有被BGA的设计小组写进游戏里？
Based on Lowenhigh’s 7/31/24 11:24am ET post in #rulebook-and-game-questions, skills should not be a selectable option unless there is a valid target in range. A good example is Michael’s Overhand (BGA issue #131936). Another example is mid-way through Michael’s Mighty Smite; I was able to move 2 spaces to an adjacent target, and then if I wanted to, BGA would’ve let me me continue to move 1 more space to get to a saint, but I’d be out of range of my target. That extra space that would end my action out of range of my target needs to be disallowed.
Here is Lowenhigh’s Discord post:
discord.com/channels/744979588366729227/792895031198351370/1268227840508170323 -
• 在游戏回放中，是否有不符合游戏规则的地方？如果有的话，请问是在哪一步呢？
Yes, not sure which move number, but it’s when Michael moves to attack a Hateful Fiend with Mighty Smite. I think the 2nd or 3rd round.
• 您正使用哪一款浏览器呢？
Chrome on iPhone
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• 你当时是想做哪个游戏行动？
Based on Lowenhigh’s 7/31/24 11:24am ET post in #rulebook-and-game-questions, skills should not be a selectable option unless there is a valid target in range. A good example is Michael’s Overhand (BGA issue #131936). Another example is mid-way through Michael’s Mighty Smite; I was able to move 2 spaces to an adjacent target, and then if I wanted to, BGA would’ve let me me continue to move 1 more space to get to a saint, but I’d be out of range of my target. That extra space that would end my action out of range of my target needs to be disallowed.
Here is Lowenhigh’s Discord post:
discord.com/channels/744979588366729227/792895031198351370/1268227840508170323 -
• 你在想做什么的时候，触发了这个游戏选项？
Yes, not sure which move number, but it’s when Michael moves to attack a Hateful Fiend with Mighty Smite. I think the 2nd or 3rd round.
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• 当你想这么做时，发生了什么事(错误信息，游戏状态信息，......)？
• 您正使用哪一款浏览器呢？
Chrome on iPhone
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• 请问这个问题发生在游戏的哪个阶段(当前的游戏说明是什么)？
Based on Lowenhigh’s 7/31/24 11:24am ET post in #rulebook-and-game-questions, skills should not be a selectable option unless there is a valid target in range. A good example is Michael’s Overhand (BGA issue #131936). Another example is mid-way through Michael’s Mighty Smite; I was able to move 2 spaces to an adjacent target, and then if I wanted to, BGA would’ve let me me continue to move 1 more space to get to a saint, but I’d be out of range of my target. That extra space that would end my action out of range of my target needs to be disallowed.
Here is Lowenhigh’s Discord post:
discord.com/channels/744979588366729227/792895031198351370/1268227840508170323 -
• 当你想进行一个游戏行动时，发生了什么事(错误信息，游戏状态信息，......)？
Yes, not sure which move number, but it’s when Michael moves to attack a Hateful Fiend with Mighty Smite. I think the 2nd or 3rd round.
• 您正使用哪一款浏览器呢？
Chrome on iPhone
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• 请描述一下显示画面上面的问题。 如果你有这个系统漏洞发生时的屏幕截图(画质不要太差)，你可以使用Imgur.com来把它上传到网络，然后将链接复制/粘贴到这里来。
Based on Lowenhigh’s 7/31/24 11:24am ET post in #rulebook-and-game-questions, skills should not be a selectable option unless there is a valid target in range. A good example is Michael’s Overhand (BGA issue #131936). Another example is mid-way through Michael’s Mighty Smite; I was able to move 2 spaces to an adjacent target, and then if I wanted to, BGA would’ve let me me continue to move 1 more space to get to a saint, but I’d be out of range of my target. That extra space that would end my action out of range of my target needs to be disallowed.
Here is Lowenhigh’s Discord post:
discord.com/channels/744979588366729227/792895031198351370/1268227840508170323 • 您正使用哪一款浏览器呢？
Chrome on iPhone
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• 请以英文复制／粘贴显示文字而非你的语言。 如果你有这个系统漏洞发生时的屏幕截图(画质不要太差)，你可以使用Imgur.com来把它上传到网络，然后将链接复制/粘贴到这里来。
Based on Lowenhigh’s 7/31/24 11:24am ET post in #rulebook-and-game-questions, skills should not be a selectable option unless there is a valid target in range. A good example is Michael’s Overhand (BGA issue #131936). Another example is mid-way through Michael’s Mighty Smite; I was able to move 2 spaces to an adjacent target, and then if I wanted to, BGA would’ve let me me continue to move 1 more space to get to a saint, but I’d be out of range of my target. That extra space that would end my action out of range of my target needs to be disallowed.
Here is Lowenhigh’s Discord post:
discord.com/channels/744979588366729227/792895031198351370/1268227840508170323 -
• 这段文本在翻译系统中吗？如果存在，它被翻译是否已超过二十四小时？
Yes, not sure which move number, but it’s when Michael moves to attack a Hateful Fiend with Mighty Smite. I think the 2nd or 3rd round.
• 您正使用哪一款浏览器呢？
Chrome on iPhone
-
• 请简明而精确地解释您的建议，以便让人明白您想表达的意思。
Based on Lowenhigh’s 7/31/24 11:24am ET post in #rulebook-and-game-questions, skills should not be a selectable option unless there is a valid target in range. A good example is Michael’s Overhand (BGA issue #131936). Another example is mid-way through Michael’s Mighty Smite; I was able to move 2 spaces to an adjacent target, and then if I wanted to, BGA would’ve let me me continue to move 1 more space to get to a saint, but I’d be out of range of my target. That extra space that would end my action out of range of my target needs to be disallowed.
Here is Lowenhigh’s Discord post:
discord.com/channels/744979588366729227/792895031198351370/1268227840508170323 • 您正使用哪一款浏览器呢？
Chrome on iPhone
案件历史
The referenced Discord post:
"I'd prefer to keep targeting requirements as they are, because skilled players won't benefit from this very much, and new players will be hurt a lot. That said, technically you always resolve skills top to bottom, left to right. You spend the action first, gain/spend the courage, then resolve the skill. Similar to demons, if you do not have a valid target, your skill ends. My recommendation for anyone looking to get that little extra juice out of the system is to stop being n00b and get more skillz so you don't need to waste actions like that 😆." - Lowenhigh (Game Designer)
BGA Guidelines prohibit removing these possibilities: boardgamearena.com/doc/BGA_Studio_Guidelines
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III-2 Be careful about player assistance
As a rule of thumb, in order to respect the original board games, you should not introduce any player assistance feature. An assistance must not be introduced if it directly helps the player to figure out if his move is good or bad. An assistance may be introduced if it can help the player to figure out what moves are available.
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"Disallow skills that don’t have valid target"
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"Add Beginner mode option: Shield skills that don’t have valid target"
To provide some bonus info: Andrew was replying to the below caution about contradicting the rulebook. He said to keep them as needing valid targets so as to not contradict the rulebook (i.e. skills are not available for use if they don’t have a valid target):
discord.com/channels/744979588366729227/792895031198351370/1268201175212232788
Here’s the rule it contradicts on page 18 of the rulebook, it’s pretty black and white:
imgur.com/a/9sqiac6
However, this has been added where it's applicable.
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- 其他的游戏桌 ID / 移动 ID
- 按 F5 是否解决了这个问题？
- 问题是否发生了好几次？还是每次都发生？还是时好时坏？
- 如果你有这个系统漏洞发生时的屏幕截图(画质不要太差)，你可以使用Imgur.com来把它上传到网络，然后将链接复制/粘贴到这里来。
