#125897: "Extra turn time for initial selections"
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• 如果有的话，请将你在屏幕上所看到的错误信息粘贴出来.
The first thing you have to do is choose a corporation, pick up to 10 cards and maybe preludes. I find the standard amount of game time for this first turn isn't enough and leaves me feeling rushed. I am relatively new to the game and it takes me a while to figure out all the cards and possible strategies. These choices will determine the flow of the entire rest of the game, so I want to feel I picked wisely.
For the initial selections only, please give players extra time than normal to make their suggestions. The game lasts over 1 hour typically so I don't think an extra minute or two at the beginning will be a problem. -
• 请说明你当时想做什么，你做了什么，然后发生了什么
• 您正使用哪一款浏览器呢？
Google Chrome v125
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• 请以英文复制／粘贴显示文字而非你的语言。 如果你有这个系统漏洞发生时的屏幕截图(画质不要太差)，你可以使用Imgur.com来把它上传到网络，然后将链接复制/粘贴到这里来。
The first thing you have to do is choose a corporation, pick up to 10 cards and maybe preludes. I find the standard amount of game time for this first turn isn't enough and leaves me feeling rushed. I am relatively new to the game and it takes me a while to figure out all the cards and possible strategies. These choices will determine the flow of the entire rest of the game, so I want to feel I picked wisely.
For the initial selections only, please give players extra time than normal to make their suggestions. The game lasts over 1 hour typically so I don't think an extra minute or two at the beginning will be a problem. -
• 这段文本在翻译系统中吗？如果存在，它被翻译是否已超过二十四小时？
• 您正使用哪一款浏览器呢？
Google Chrome v125
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• 请简明而精确地解释您的建议，以便让人明白您想表达的意思。
The first thing you have to do is choose a corporation, pick up to 10 cards and maybe preludes. I find the standard amount of game time for this first turn isn't enough and leaves me feeling rushed. I am relatively new to the game and it takes me a while to figure out all the cards and possible strategies. These choices will determine the flow of the entire rest of the game, so I want to feel I picked wisely.
For the initial selections only, please give players extra time than normal to make their suggestions. The game lasts over 1 hour typically so I don't think an extra minute or two at the beginning will be a problem. • 您正使用哪一款浏览器呢？
Google Chrome v125
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• 当你被封锁的时候，屏幕上出现了些什么呢？(空白的屏幕？部分游戏平台画面？错误的信息？)
The first thing you have to do is choose a corporation, pick up to 10 cards and maybe preludes. I find the standard amount of game time for this first turn isn't enough and leaves me feeling rushed. I am relatively new to the game and it takes me a while to figure out all the cards and possible strategies. These choices will determine the flow of the entire rest of the game, so I want to feel I picked wisely.
For the initial selections only, please give players extra time than normal to make their suggestions. The game lasts over 1 hour typically so I don't think an extra minute or two at the beginning will be a problem. • 您正使用哪一款浏览器呢？
Google Chrome v125
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• 哪个规则没有被BGA的设计小组写进游戏里？
The first thing you have to do is choose a corporation, pick up to 10 cards and maybe preludes. I find the standard amount of game time for this first turn isn't enough and leaves me feeling rushed. I am relatively new to the game and it takes me a while to figure out all the cards and possible strategies. These choices will determine the flow of the entire rest of the game, so I want to feel I picked wisely.
For the initial selections only, please give players extra time than normal to make their suggestions. The game lasts over 1 hour typically so I don't think an extra minute or two at the beginning will be a problem. -
• 在游戏回放中，是否有不符合游戏规则的地方？如果有的话，请问是在哪一步呢？
• 您正使用哪一款浏览器呢？
Google Chrome v125
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• 你当时是想做哪个游戏行动？
The first thing you have to do is choose a corporation, pick up to 10 cards and maybe preludes. I find the standard amount of game time for this first turn isn't enough and leaves me feeling rushed. I am relatively new to the game and it takes me a while to figure out all the cards and possible strategies. These choices will determine the flow of the entire rest of the game, so I want to feel I picked wisely.
For the initial selections only, please give players extra time than normal to make their suggestions. The game lasts over 1 hour typically so I don't think an extra minute or two at the beginning will be a problem. -
• 你在想做什么的时候，触发了这个游戏选项？
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• 当你想这么做时，发生了什么事(错误信息，游戏状态信息，......)？
• 您正使用哪一款浏览器呢？
Google Chrome v125
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• 请问这个问题发生在游戏的哪个阶段(当前的游戏说明是什么)？
The first thing you have to do is choose a corporation, pick up to 10 cards and maybe preludes. I find the standard amount of game time for this first turn isn't enough and leaves me feeling rushed. I am relatively new to the game and it takes me a while to figure out all the cards and possible strategies. These choices will determine the flow of the entire rest of the game, so I want to feel I picked wisely.
For the initial selections only, please give players extra time than normal to make their suggestions. The game lasts over 1 hour typically so I don't think an extra minute or two at the beginning will be a problem. -
• 当你想进行一个游戏行动时，发生了什么事(错误信息，游戏状态信息，......)？
• 您正使用哪一款浏览器呢？
Google Chrome v125
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• 请描述一下显示画面上面的问题。 如果你有这个系统漏洞发生时的屏幕截图(画质不要太差)，你可以使用Imgur.com来把它上传到网络，然后将链接复制/粘贴到这里来。
The first thing you have to do is choose a corporation, pick up to 10 cards and maybe preludes. I find the standard amount of game time for this first turn isn't enough and leaves me feeling rushed. I am relatively new to the game and it takes me a while to figure out all the cards and possible strategies. These choices will determine the flow of the entire rest of the game, so I want to feel I picked wisely.
For the initial selections only, please give players extra time than normal to make their suggestions. The game lasts over 1 hour typically so I don't think an extra minute or two at the beginning will be a problem. • 您正使用哪一款浏览器呢？
Google Chrome v125
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• 请以英文复制／粘贴显示文字而非你的语言。 如果你有这个系统漏洞发生时的屏幕截图(画质不要太差)，你可以使用Imgur.com来把它上传到网络，然后将链接复制/粘贴到这里来。
The first thing you have to do is choose a corporation, pick up to 10 cards and maybe preludes. I find the standard amount of game time for this first turn isn't enough and leaves me feeling rushed. I am relatively new to the game and it takes me a while to figure out all the cards and possible strategies. These choices will determine the flow of the entire rest of the game, so I want to feel I picked wisely.
For the initial selections only, please give players extra time than normal to make their suggestions. The game lasts over 1 hour typically so I don't think an extra minute or two at the beginning will be a problem. -
• 这段文本在翻译系统中吗？如果存在，它被翻译是否已超过二十四小时？
• 您正使用哪一款浏览器呢？
Google Chrome v125
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• 请简明而精确地解释您的建议，以便让人明白您想表达的意思。
The first thing you have to do is choose a corporation, pick up to 10 cards and maybe preludes. I find the standard amount of game time for this first turn isn't enough and leaves me feeling rushed. I am relatively new to the game and it takes me a while to figure out all the cards and possible strategies. These choices will determine the flow of the entire rest of the game, so I want to feel I picked wisely.
For the initial selections only, please give players extra time than normal to make their suggestions. The game lasts over 1 hour typically so I don't think an extra minute or two at the beginning will be a problem. • 您正使用哪一款浏览器呢？
Google Chrome v125
案件历史
This is a simple fix that should have been implemented within a second of suggesting it.
See what I did there?
Thanks!
I am adding more time after to compesate for it, but it will only kick in after selection.
3 min should be enought to choose your cards. If not you should play friendly/turn based game.
The turn timer for real-time Terraforming Mars is very short. Even on the slowest setting, it is only 2 minutes and 42 seconds.
Race for The Galaxy has a 5-minute option on the slowest setting, and that's a game that typically only takes 10 minutes TOTAL for a player to make all moves.
There was a spirited discussion a few months ago about a game analysis in which the OP of the thread had not taken the optimal line with the starting hand. High-level players plan out an opening strategy based on the optimal synergy from among their 2 starting corporations, 4 preludes, and 10 project cards. This takes time. And the advice from top players would be for all players to do this. The given time, even on the slowest setting, does not really provide sufficient thinking time to do this.
I very much like the idea of a button a player can click that says, "please give me extra time", as you suggested. At the start of the game, a player would have one such "time bank", and it would add, let's say, 2 minutes. Or whatever amount is deemed appropriate. And maybe every 25 minutes, one more "time bank'" can be added. Sometimes the doorbell rings, or nature calls, or whatever.
It would still feel rushed for choosing the corporation cards, since you have to go through all cards before making a strategy, however it will overall make it a bit better.
I play on the fastest setting, because normally for each turn there is plenty of time to play. It is only the selection phase that doesn't fit the normal game flow.
But, based on the fact that I've been (by multiple people) told it's not possible to add extra time to a specific move, such as the opening move, I don't see how a time bank would be possible either.
Oh, I just realized that I already talked about this in my recent post on May 27th in this very thread.
Okay, so, someone create a new, separate suggestion for "Split up the initial choosing of cards into separate turns for corporations, preludes, and project cards."
a few possible problems:
1) Suggestions can be upvoted but not downvoted. 20 upvotes means nothing if there are 40 people who would downvote if they could. Could someone create a poll in the regular discussion forum where people can vote yes or no?
2) This would add some nuisance back and forth at the start of turn-based games with 3+ players. My understanding is that turn-based players already get irritated when such things occur, hence the ongoing debate about taking single cations in TFM.
3) How would this work exactly? We see all 16 cards, but we need to lock in our corporation choice and then pass the action to the next player? And then, our corporation is locked in without any possibility of undo if we decide we'd rather go in the other direction? When I play preludes, I often change my mind numerous times during the initial card selection process (with regard to my corporation, preludes, and project cards.) The eventual selection is a synergistic choice, not, "Okay, I want Ecoline. CONFIRM. Okay, now let me see which preludes go well with Ecoline. CONFIRM. Okay, now let me see which project cards go well with these preludes. That's not how people typically make their initial selections.
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- 按 F5 是否解决了这个问题？
- 问题是否发生了好几次？还是每次都发生？还是时好时坏？
- 如果你有这个系统漏洞发生时的屏幕截图(画质不要太差)，你可以使用Imgur.com来把它上传到网络，然后将链接复制/粘贴到这里来。
