#1181: "Blue Team lost against Green without the gate "
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• 如果有的话，请将你在屏幕上所看到的错误信息粘贴出来.
There is some paths that can avoid the gates
but Green won the game and Blue earned nothing.
I think Blue must earn golds. -
• 请说明你当时想做什么，你做了什么，然后发生了什么
#67
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• 请以英文复制／粘贴显示文字而非你的语言。 如果你已截取此Bug的屏幕截图（好习惯），可使用任意图片托管服务（例如snipboard.io）上传后，将链接复制粘贴至此处。 这段文本在翻译系统中吗？如果存在，它被翻译是否已超过二十四小时？
There is some paths that can avoid the gates
but Green won the game and Blue earned nothing.
I think Blue must earn golds. • 您正使用哪一款浏览器呢？
Google Chrome v35
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• 请简明而精确地解释您的建议，以便让人明白您想表达的意思。
There is some paths that can avoid the gates
but Green won the game and Blue earned nothing.
I think Blue must earn golds. • 您正使用哪一款浏览器呢？
Google Chrome v35
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• 当你被封锁的时候，屏幕上出现了些什么呢？(空白的屏幕？部分游戏平台画面？错误的信息？)
There is some paths that can avoid the gates
but Green won the game and Blue earned nothing.
I think Blue must earn golds. • 您正使用哪一款浏览器呢？
Google Chrome v35
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• 哪个规则没有被BGA的设计小组写进游戏里？
There is some paths that can avoid the gates
but Green won the game and Blue earned nothing.
I think Blue must earn golds. -
• 在游戏回放中，是否有不符合游戏规则的地方？如果有的话，请问是在哪一步呢？
#67
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• 你当时是想做哪个游戏行动？
There is some paths that can avoid the gates
but Green won the game and Blue earned nothing.
I think Blue must earn golds. -
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#67
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• 请问这个问题发生在游戏的哪个阶段(当前的游戏说明是什么)？
There is some paths that can avoid the gates
but Green won the game and Blue earned nothing.
I think Blue must earn golds. -
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#67
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There is some paths that can avoid the gates
but Green won the game and Blue earned nothing.
I think Blue must earn golds. • 您正使用哪一款浏览器呢？
Google Chrome v35
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• 请以英文复制／粘贴显示文字而非你的语言。 如果你已截取此Bug的屏幕截图（好习惯），可使用任意图片托管服务（例如snipboard.io）上传后，将链接复制粘贴至此处。 这段文本在翻译系统中吗？如果存在，它被翻译是否已超过二十四小时？
There is some paths that can avoid the gates
but Green won the game and Blue earned nothing.
I think Blue must earn golds. • 您正使用哪一款浏览器呢？
Google Chrome v35
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• 请简明而精确地解释您的建议，以便让人明白您想表达的意思。
There is some paths that can avoid the gates
but Green won the game and Blue earned nothing.
I think Blue must earn golds. • 您正使用哪一款浏览器呢？
Google Chrome v35
案件历史
According to the rules:
A team wins if:
- a dwarf from that team creates the connection to the treasure and the way there
isn‘t blocked by a door of the other color, or;
- a dwarf from the other team creates the connection to the treasure, but the way
there for his or her own team is blocked by a door of the wrong color.
Accordingly to the links given in the BGA Saboteur page (Expansion rules (Saboteur 2) : zmangames.com/rulebooks/Saboteur_2.pdf),
"Splitting the Treasure
Depending on whether there is an uninterrupted path from the start to the treasure or not, the
Gold-Diggers or the Saboteurs win the round. If the path to the treasure is blocked by a door,
only the dwarves from the team of the same color win."
There is no indication that only a colored team win if there is no door on the path.
If I'm wrong, could you give me a link with the rule giving the proper explanation about this behavior please ?
2fishki.ru/userfiles/saboteur_2.pdf
Just noticed this thread.
There is actually indication that only a colored team win if there is no door on the path.
Please see p.1 of sab 2 rules
New Dwarf and victory conditions (blue and green miners):
".......but they are IN COMPETITION"
"A teams win if one of their own dwarf finishes a path to the treasure."
The second statement would imply that blue opens gold, blue will win. As they are in competition, most likely this would also imply green would not get anything.
Hope this would help.
Hi Sergii,
BGA answered me already.
In fact, both of you are right. Your issue has revealed a translation error.
The programmers of BGA have followed the French rule version of the game. This rule, which I’ve checked long time ago, contains a badly translated sentence which is the cause of the wrong interpretation.
I will inform BGA of it and more importantly the French distributor.
I will keep you updated of any change applied by BGA.
Best regards,
Frederic
30 November 2016 at 10:25
So this was actually a bug, even though our reference rules said it wasn't ;)
It has been fixed today.
- Usually each team wins alone. Blue and green are competing for victory.
- Examples and exceptions:
* If a green digger creates a path to the treasure without any doors, the green team wins.
* If there is a blue door on the path, the blue team wins instead of the green team.
* If there is a blue door and a green door on the path, only the boss and profiteer win.
* If the boss, a saboteur, a geologist or the profiteer creates a path to the treasure without any doors, both teams win together.
The previous implementation did exactly that, so in fact it was correct. I reverted my change to get back to the proper implementation.
Hope things are clear now for everyone with the examples above :)
Have fun!
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