#114471: "'Forest Fires' not prevented from 'Ecological Protection Service'"
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• 如果有的话，请将你在屏幕上所看到的错误信息粘贴出来.
(Used Stratospheric sulfur to have more events, and we got the crisis one turn earlier which add more events)
(Firstly got an unrelated prompt from ecological protection service for a crisis, I refused to use it)
Secondly, got a prompt to use ecological service for 'Forest Fires', I accepted, so that crisis should be prevented for me.
But the crisis isn't prevented. -
• 请说明你当时想做什么，你做了什么，然后发生了什么
yes #158/#159
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• 请以英文复制／粘贴显示文字而非你的语言。 如果你有这个系统漏洞发生时的屏幕截图(画质不要太差)，你可以使用Imgur.com来把它上传到网络，然后将链接复制/粘贴到这里来。
(Used Stratospheric sulfur to have more events, and we got the crisis one turn earlier which add more events)
(Firstly got an unrelated prompt from ecological protection service for a crisis, I refused to use it)
Secondly, got a prompt to use ecological service for 'Forest Fires', I accepted, so that crisis should be prevented for me.
But the crisis isn't prevented. -
• 这段文本在翻译系统中吗？如果存在，它被翻译是否已超过二十四小时？
yes #158/#159
visible on the logs mainly • 您正使用哪一款浏览器呢？
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• 请简明而精确地解释您的建议，以便让人明白您想表达的意思。
(Used Stratospheric sulfur to have more events, and we got the crisis one turn earlier which add more events)
(Firstly got an unrelated prompt from ecological protection service for a crisis, I refused to use it)
Secondly, got a prompt to use ecological service for 'Forest Fires', I accepted, so that crisis should be prevented for me.
But the crisis isn't prevented. • 您正使用哪一款浏览器呢？
Mozilla v5
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• 当你被封锁的时候，屏幕上出现了些什么呢？(空白的屏幕？部分游戏平台画面？错误的信息？)
(Used Stratospheric sulfur to have more events, and we got the crisis one turn earlier which add more events)
(Firstly got an unrelated prompt from ecological protection service for a crisis, I refused to use it)
Secondly, got a prompt to use ecological service for 'Forest Fires', I accepted, so that crisis should be prevented for me.
But the crisis isn't prevented. • 您正使用哪一款浏览器呢？
Mozilla v5
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• 哪个规则没有被BGA的设计小组写进游戏里？
(Used Stratospheric sulfur to have more events, and we got the crisis one turn earlier which add more events)
(Firstly got an unrelated prompt from ecological protection service for a crisis, I refused to use it)
Secondly, got a prompt to use ecological service for 'Forest Fires', I accepted, so that crisis should be prevented for me.
But the crisis isn't prevented. -
• 在游戏回放中，是否有不符合游戏规则的地方？如果有的话，请问是在哪一步呢？
yes #158/#159
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• 你当时是想做哪个游戏行动？
(Used Stratospheric sulfur to have more events, and we got the crisis one turn earlier which add more events)
(Firstly got an unrelated prompt from ecological protection service for a crisis, I refused to use it)
Secondly, got a prompt to use ecological service for 'Forest Fires', I accepted, so that crisis should be prevented for me.
But the crisis isn't prevented. -
• 你在想做什么的时候，触发了这个游戏选项？
yes #158/#159
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• 当你想这么做时，发生了什么事(错误信息，游戏状态信息，......)？
• 您正使用哪一款浏览器呢？
Mozilla v5
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• 请问这个问题发生在游戏的哪个阶段(当前的游戏说明是什么)？
(Used Stratospheric sulfur to have more events, and we got the crisis one turn earlier which add more events)
(Firstly got an unrelated prompt from ecological protection service for a crisis, I refused to use it)
Secondly, got a prompt to use ecological service for 'Forest Fires', I accepted, so that crisis should be prevented for me.
But the crisis isn't prevented. -
• 当你想进行一个游戏行动时，发生了什么事(错误信息，游戏状态信息，......)？
yes #158/#159
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Mozilla v5
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• 请描述一下显示画面上面的问题。 如果你有这个系统漏洞发生时的屏幕截图(画质不要太差)，你可以使用Imgur.com来把它上传到网络，然后将链接复制/粘贴到这里来。
(Used Stratospheric sulfur to have more events, and we got the crisis one turn earlier which add more events)
(Firstly got an unrelated prompt from ecological protection service for a crisis, I refused to use it)
Secondly, got a prompt to use ecological service for 'Forest Fires', I accepted, so that crisis should be prevented for me.
But the crisis isn't prevented. • 您正使用哪一款浏览器呢？
Mozilla v5
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• 请以英文复制／粘贴显示文字而非你的语言。 如果你有这个系统漏洞发生时的屏幕截图(画质不要太差)，你可以使用Imgur.com来把它上传到网络，然后将链接复制/粘贴到这里来。
(Used Stratospheric sulfur to have more events, and we got the crisis one turn earlier which add more events)
(Firstly got an unrelated prompt from ecological protection service for a crisis, I refused to use it)
Secondly, got a prompt to use ecological service for 'Forest Fires', I accepted, so that crisis should be prevented for me.
But the crisis isn't prevented. -
• 这段文本在翻译系统中吗？如果存在，它被翻译是否已超过二十四小时？
yes #158/#159
visible on the logs mainly • 您正使用哪一款浏览器呢？
Mozilla v5
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• 请简明而精确地解释您的建议，以便让人明白您想表达的意思。
(Used Stratospheric sulfur to have more events, and we got the crisis one turn earlier which add more events)
(Firstly got an unrelated prompt from ecological protection service for a crisis, I refused to use it)
Secondly, got a prompt to use ecological service for 'Forest Fires', I accepted, so that crisis should be prevented for me.
But the crisis isn't prevented. • 您正使用哪一款浏览器呢？
Mozilla v5
案件历史
Especially since knowing that nothing will happen is extremely tricky.
Or it's just a bug.
One player wasn't personally affected by the crisis card, but the remaining (board) effects still occur.
No bug here. It's a legal move to use Ecological Protection Service suboptimally. If we were in the business of enforcing optimal play, we'd automate out the player entirely and the game would play itself, which wouldn't be much fun for anyone.
Or at least one person will understand it. Can you imagine that you would use the effect for nothing on this case?
For me it's obvious and it's a no.
Now to come back to Online, I can see why it could be different.
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I don't have an example in mind, but I suppose you could find some where doing something extremely bad (like doing an action which lead to you losing) would get an extra prompt from the game telling you should not do it.
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"If we were in the business of enforcing optimal play, we'd automate out the player entirely and the game would play itself, which wouldn't be much fun for anyone." => You could automate things which are good most of the time. That would not make the game play itself since in many cases you should do something different. But that's not great I agree with you that enforcing optimal play would be overall detrimental.
But here it was not enforcing optimal play but not doing something which is no sense.
In summary, we allow you to make your own moves, both good and bad.
- Protection said 'once per turn, one player may ignore the effects of one crisis card if [...]'
- and Forest Fires said 'The player [...] removes 1 Tree and [...]'
And so when you decide that the player ignore the effects of that crisis, that player should not do anything anymore about the crisis.
But so, when the crisis ask that player to removes trees, he just can't, so no player is allowed to remove trees.
Again I can see why in code that would be different, but when I read carefully both card, that's not the interpretation I have.
As long as we're switching positions, let me present this narrative:
1) I tried reproducing this in a test game and it works exactly how you're suggesting it was.
2) In your game, I see that the card both "had no effect" and then, after no effect, it caused the trees to be removed or whatever...
3) ...which is a little confusing...
4) ...until I noticed that the effect worked perfectly, then you drew the SECOND Forest Fires crisis card and suffered its effect.
In summary, Ecological Protection Service is working perfectly fine, but it only works once per round. You drew two of the same card and cancelled the first. There's no bug here.
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- 其他的游戏桌 ID / 移动 ID
- 按 F5 是否解决了这个问题？
- 问题是否发生了好几次？还是每次都发生？还是时好时坏？
- 如果你有这个系统漏洞发生时的屏幕截图(画质不要太差)，你可以使用Imgur.com来把它上传到网络，然后将链接复制/粘贴到这里来。
